The Trinity

[God's Truth]

Yes, that is the singular essence of the ousia (Being) of God, but Scripture clearly reveals this Divine Being as plural with three distinct personhoods.

God the Father is invisible, He is Spirit and lives in unapproachable light.
Jesus is God the Father with a physical body.
The Holy Spirit is God the Father's Spirit which goes forth without limit.

How to define such infinite and triune personhood, with very limited and finite intelligence, is a great problem . . that leaves the most wise many less explanatory efforts.

The trinity doctrine has been proven to be a false doctrine from mere men who made a mistake.

 

[God's Truth]

That Jesus is fully man (with His own human spirit) and fully God? Really?

Luke 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

Mark 8:12 And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation.

Zechariah 12:1 The burden of the word of the Lord for Israel, saith the Lord, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.​

No, show me where from what I said that you thought to ask me such a question.

 

[freelight]

I prove my beliefs with scriptures from the Holy Bible.

Ah, don't they all?

 

[glorydaz]

Yes, the above is a finite definition applied to an infinite God . . It just does not suffice . . But so far, I have not read or found any satisfying answer to better describe the Triune Godhead.

Have you?

Can't say that I have, and it's disappointing, isn't it?

 

[God's Truth]

Jesus was born to hold the logos as told in Heb 10:5.

Heb 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
Heb 10:6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
Heb 10:7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
Heb 10:8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
Heb 10:9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.


Spirit is a tricky word GT. There are three different words to define spirit.

Consider that demons are spirits and Christ took a legion of them out of ONE man and sent them into the swine.

There is only one divine Spirit. Why would you ever bring up demons when we are talking about God? What is wrong with you?
We are talking about God and you start talking about demons...

 

[God's Truth]

Ah, don't they all?

No.
They avoid the scriptures, and ignore them, they twist them.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Is Jesus not a person? The Holy Spirit? The Father?

The Holy Spirit is spirit and as such not a person.

Saying the Father of all existence is a person is really misleading.

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[popsthebuilder]

Are you denying Jesus is fully human as well as fully God? opcorn:


Jesus is NOT the Holy Spirit. Just as He is not the Father.

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.​

We receive the triune God when we receive Jesus Christ. I realize this is a difficult concept, but if you stop cherrypicking, you might see the whole truth.

You did catch the part that said "send in my name" right?

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[keypurr]

The Son is NOT created, yet He is the express image of the Father. Sometimes I just don't understand what you are trying to say.

ALL IMAGES ARE CREATIONS.

I HAVE BEEN ASKING YOU FOR AT LEAST FOUR YEARS TO SHOW ME ANY IMAGE THAT IS NOT CREATED.

Images need a subject to be an image of.

The logo is he express image of God, firstborn of all creation/creatures.

Col 1:15

(ASV) who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation;

(Bishops) Who is the image of the inuisible God, the first borne of all creatures.

(DRB) Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

(Geneva) Who is the image of the inuisible God, the first begotten of euery creature.

(NET.) He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation,

Notice the words CREATURE and CREATION.

Christ, the spirit Son of God is a creature, create form of God.

Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Php 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

 

[keypurr]

Our flesh bodies are made alive and called a living soul because of our spirit.

Our spirit and body work together, however, when our body dies our spirit lives on in consciousness.

Job 32:8 But it is the spirit in a person, the breath of the Almighty, that gives them understanding.

God's breath gives us our spirit within us, at conception.

Job 33:4 "The Spirit of God has made me, And the breath of the Almighty gives me life.

Genesis 2:7 Then the LORD God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.

James 2:26 As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.

I have proven with scripture that God's breath gives us our own spirit, and that spirit makes our flesh body to be called a living soul, and without our spirit, our body is dead.

The body without a mind is just a lump of flesh.

 

[Nang]

Can't say that I have, and it's disappointing, isn't it?

Intellectually, yes.

I have reached the conclusion that belief in the Triune God is the result of saving grace and faith, alone.

Trusting in The Triune God is EVIDENCE of true salvation and actual indwelling of the Holy Spirit.

We, as Christians confess God as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit by FAITH, even when we humanly cannot fully explain His Fullness and Glory.

 

[God's Truth]

The body without a mind is just a lump of flesh.

The body without the spirit is dead.

James 2:26 As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.

 

[keypurr]

So if I draw a fantastic picture of a cat breathing fire with a purple tail and wings, this image that I made brings it into existence? Maybe in a theoretical sense, but not in reality.

To draw an image of a cat you need to know what a cat looks like and that image would be YOUR creation.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Begotten is created or formed.

It's that simple.

Does that mean that Lord and GOD aren't synonymous? No; the Spirit of GOD returned to GOD after the resurrection. Does it mean the anointed of GOD was literally the utter fullness of GOD the Spirit whole in material trappings of flesh? Well, what did he regard himself as?

The son is begotten of the father.

peace

just my opinion.

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[popsthebuilder]

Intellectually, yes.

I have reached the conclusion that belief in the Triune God is the result of saving grace and faith, alone.

Trusting in The Triune God is EVIDENCE of true salvation and actual indwelling of the Holy Spirit.

We, as Christians confess God as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit by FAITH, even when we humanly cannot fully explain His Fullness and Glory.

"Trusting in The Triune God is EVIDENCE of true salvation and actual indwelling of the Holy Spirit. "

Could you substantiate that claim with the plain reading of scripture within context?

peace

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[Nang]

"Trusting in The Triune God is EVIDENCE of true salvation and actual indwelling of the Holy Spirit. "

Could you substantiate that claim with the plain reading of scripture within context?

peace

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All Christians pray to the Father, in the name of Jesus Christ, by the prompting of the Holy Spirit.

Why?

You tell me . . .

 

[keypurr]

There is only one divine Spirit. Why would you ever bring up demons when we are talking about God? What is wrong with you?
We are talking about God and you start talking about demons...

To make a point to you.

A man can have more than one spirit in him.

Even science has documented many personalities in one person.

Are they spirits???????

You are concerned about the spirit son that entered Jesus. It simply joined the spirit that was already there and took control over his words. After all, both have the save Father.

 

[glorydaz]

Are you denying Jesus is fully human as well as fully God? opcorn:

What? Show me.

That Jesus is fully man (with His own human spirit) and fully God? Really?

No, show me where from what I said that you thought to ask me such a question.

There ya go. opcorn:

 

[popsthebuilder]

All Christians pray to the Father, in the name of Jesus Christ, by the prompting of the Holy Spirit.

Why?

You tell me . . .

Could you either scripturally substantiate your two claims you made or admit they are not based on scripture?

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[glorydaz]

Spirit.

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