freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
Fluff your theology............
Fluff your theology............
Ahhh,...you tickle me pink
Fluff your theology............
Ahhh,...you tickle me pink
The Trinity
- Thread starter Bright Raven
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glorydaz
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That man, Jesus, had a human spirit, just as we all do. He was fully man and fully God.
Man's spirit is that which communes with the Holy Spirit.
Proverbs 20:27 The spirit of man is the candle of the Lord, searching all the inward parts of the belly.
The human spirit is formed in all men by God. Man is body, soul, and spirit.
Zechariah 12:1 The burden of the word of the Lord for Israel, saith the Lord, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.
God's Truth
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Since all comes from and has life from the One Universal Infinite Spirit,...all things and beings are pervaded by that breath of life
I prove my beliefs with scriptures from the Holy Bible.
God's Truth
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Jesus IS the Holy Spirit. The Bible says it clearly.
There is only one Divine Spirit.
Rosenritter
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With a description like that, it sounds like you are saying these are three individuals.
Rosenritter
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So if I draw a fantastic picture of a cat breathing fire with a purple tail and wings, this image that I made brings it into existence? Maybe in a theoretical sense, but not in reality.
glorydaz
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Are you denying Jesus is fully human as well as fully God?
opcorn:Jesus is NOT the Holy Spirit. Just as He is not the Father.
John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
We receive the triune God when we receive Jesus Christ. I realize this is a difficult concept, but if you stop cherrypicking, you might see the whole truth.
glorydaz
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I've never liked the term "persons" for that very reason.
Is Jesus not a person? The Holy Spirit? The Father?
glorydaz
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Look out...Nang will jump on you for using the word "they". :chuckle:
glorydaz
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No, because a person is an individual human being. I'm not saying it isn't accepted when describing the trinity, but I personally think it's misleading.
noun
1.
a human being regarded as an individual.
"the porter was the last person to see her"
synonyms: human being, individual, man/woman, child, human, being, (living) soul, mortal, creature; More
God's Truth
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What? Show me.Are you denying Jesus is fully human as well as fully God?
The scriptures say he is.
There is only one Divine Spirit.
The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God.
Jesus is the Holy Spirit.
Jesus is the one.
No such warning from God.
Nang
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Nang
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Yes, the above is a finite definition applied to an infinite God . . It just does not suffice . . But so far, I have not read or found any satisfying answer to better describe the Triune Godhead.
Have you?
God's Truth
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Spirit.
keypurr
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Without the logos, Jesus is not the Christ.
It is the logos that God used to create the Universe, not Jesus.
Jesus was BORN flesh, the LOGOS (spirit son) came from above.
They BECAME one when Jesus was baptized with the logos, remember the dove. It was then that Jesus received the POWER. Acts 10:38.
Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
That power is the power of the logos or spirit son, express image, form of God.
Col 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
Nang
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Yes, that is the singular essence of the ousia (Being) of God, but Scripture clearly reveals this Divine Being as plural with three distinct personhoods.
How to define such infinite and triune personhood, with very limited and finite intelligence, is a great problem . . that leaves the most wise, offering considerably few explanatory efforts.
glorydaz
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That Jesus is fully man (with His own human spirit) and fully God? Really?
Luke 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.
Mark 8:12 And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation.
Zechariah 12:1 The burden of the word of the Lord for Israel, saith the Lord, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.
Mark 8:12 And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation.
Zechariah 12:1 The burden of the word of the Lord for Israel, saith the Lord, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.
keypurr
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Jesus was born to hold the logos as told in Heb 10:5.
Heb 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
Heb 10:6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
Heb 10:7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
Heb 10:8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
Heb 10:9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
Spirit is a tricky word GT. There are three different words to define spirit.
Consider that demons are spirits and Christ took a legion of them out of ONE man and sent them into the swine.