glorydaz
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You did get the "he shall teach you all things" didn't you?
The Trinity
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You did get the "he shall teach you all things" didn't you?
Nang
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Heh?
The entirety of Scripture reveals Triune God.
It is this Truth of the Godhead that believers trust in by faith, alone.
God's Truth
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People search for God and that is before they are saved.
Who searches for that which they already have?
I tell you, you are entrapped to believe the teachings of John Calvin.
You go on and on about things that are not true.
All you have to do to get the truth is to repent of everything you think you know.
God's Truth
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Something is seriously wrong with you to bring up demons when I speak of God.
God's Truth
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There ya go.opcorn:
Eat and continue to be lost.
popsthebuilder
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Then you should have no problem substantiating your claims with scripture.
Surely you aren't saying tradition is right because it is tradition. But if that is what you are hinting at, then maybe you can find supporting scripture for that(within context in all cases please/ or simple reference).
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God's Truth
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You deny that God is Spirit?
You deny that Jesus is Spirit?
You deny that the Holy Spirit is Spirit?
You deny that there is only one Spirit?
glorydaz
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:chuckle:
glorydaz
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Clearly you are confused about our triune God.
You don't even understand that Jesus was fully God and fully man.
In His humanity...Jesus was not a spirit, but He had a spirit (as all humans do). He also had the Holy Spirit dwelling in Him, like some of us do.
Until you can understand these baby steps, there is no point in moving on.
Every question you ask is so far off the wall, an entire explanation is required.
Saxon Hammer
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As some information has ALREADY been posted in this thread about the delay in adding the concept of 'The holy trinity' to the bible and indications that some verses have been 'amended/added to', I too have VERY serious doubts as to the validity of 'Father, son and holy ghost'.
Some talk of the 'trinity' involves 'blood and water' so they maybe a different form of 'Trinity' that I do not yet know.
From my perspective - Just as our mother and father give birth to us, our 'spirit' holds allegiance to them and should we birth our own then our 'spirit' should hold allegiance to our children. This is the 'real' version of 'father, son and holy ghost'.
The only way we can 'know God' is through our spirit, this spirit NEVER stops but can be stifled by poor thinking and allowing the 'animal' part of our physical existence to dominate our lives.
popsthebuilder
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Now find that in scripture.Funnily enough...
Notice the third definition...
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God's Truth
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Jesus' Spirit is the Holy Spirit.
Rosenritter
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An observation, the phrase "fully God and fully man" may be confusing to some. It's not a phrase lifted from scriptural quote. If I said "the fruit was fully apple and fully orange" people would be confused as well. It seems contradictory. And it would be, if both "apple" and "orange" meant the actual fruit, rather than one being fruit and the other color, etc...
From Philippians 2
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
To make it more confusing, "God" might mean different things depending on application: it can mean the actual being, or it might mean the position status and title. In one of these senses, Jesus was fully God. In the other sense, humbling himself he operated outside of his status of "God" for a short time. I have a friend who, understanding the nature of Jesus just as I do I think, doesn't want to say that Jesus was "fully God" because he understand "God" to encompass including Christ (the superset includes the subset, not the other way around.)
Point being that the phrase you used seems accurate enough when one refers to the being, and the other as the form. "Fully God" means it was truly our God, the same that created us, because "God" is meant as a person. "Fully man" meaning as described above, "being found in the form of a man" because "man" is a generic form, not a specific individual.
From Philippians 2
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
To make it more confusing, "God" might mean different things depending on application: it can mean the actual being, or it might mean the position status and title. In one of these senses, Jesus was fully God. In the other sense, humbling himself he operated outside of his status of "God" for a short time. I have a friend who, understanding the nature of Jesus just as I do I think, doesn't want to say that Jesus was "fully God" because he understand "God" to encompass including Christ (the superset includes the subset, not the other way around.)
Point being that the phrase you used seems accurate enough when one refers to the being, and the other as the form. "Fully God" means it was truly our God, the same that created us, because "God" is meant as a person. "Fully man" meaning as described above, "being found in the form of a man" because "man" is a generic form, not a specific individual.
Eagles Wings
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A hearty Amen!
You are assuming that the anointing was the "joining"... but Jesus was (Conceived of the HOLY SPIRIT).
This is an issue that I never understand in the "adoption" system. Also... it is clear that the LOGOS became FLESH... due to the "conception".
Why do you circumvent this?
glorydaz
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Well, He is fully God because He created all things.
He is fully man because He became one of us willingly in order to suffer the same things we do. Because He is God, He was able to do exactly that.
I don't see what's confusing about it.
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glorydaz
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Then you deny He was body, soul, and spirit as we are. Not fully man. :nono:
popsthebuilder
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Then perhaps you can explain why GOD would send GOD to be a blood sacrifice and payment for all sin for man(GOD's creation) to GOD, and how this saves man and GOD's creation.
With such a hardy amen on the Trinity doctrine being pertinent to salvation, perhaps you can show how this is the good news and how it saves man from himself.
peace
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popsthebuilder
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"(Conceived of the HOLY SPIRIT)"
Conceived; as in not eternal?
But that's okay because one half of the other 66.6% of the Trinitarian god is eternal....right?
peace
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