The Trinity

The Trinity


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glorydaz

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Wow.... Please show with scripture that one must believe in the doctrine of the Trinity to be saved.

It's a matter of knowing God. The trinity is a test to see if you know Him or not.

He hides from the proud...those who lean on their own understanding.

Isaiah 45:15 Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Saviour.

James 4:6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.​



If you have no concept of the nature of God, then you have not been convicted by the HOLY SPIRIT, and do not have the Holy Spirit abiding in you. "THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD".

2 Corinthians 4:5-6
For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake. For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

The first step for all men is to recognize our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. If you miss that, you'll miss the person of the Holy Spirit who Jesus sent.

John 8:12
Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.​
 

God's Truth

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It's a matter of knowing God. The trinity is a test to see if you know Him or not.

He hides from the proud...those who lean on their own understanding.

Isaiah 45:15 Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Saviour.

James 4:6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.​



If you have no concept of the nature of God, then you have not been convicted by the HOLY SPIRIT, and do not have the Holy Spirit abiding in you. "THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD".

2 Corinthians 4:5-6
For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake. For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

The first step for all men is to recognize our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. If you miss that, you'll miss the person of the Holy Spirit who Jesus sent.

John 8:12
Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.​

Give Jesus all the glory and see that he is God the Father.
 

glorydaz

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Give Jesus all the glory and see that he is God the Father.

He is God the Word come in the flesh.

You aren't giving the person of Jesus Christ any glory at all.

You're like the man who blames his body of flesh for eating too much.
"My stomach made me do it." :chuckle:

The inability to see distinction is a sign of blindness. Get your eyes checked.
 

God's Truth

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He is God the Word come in the flesh.

You aren't giving the person of Jesus Christ any glory at all.

You're like the man who blames his body of flesh for eating too much.
"My stomach made me do it." :chuckle:

The inability to see distinction is a sign of blindness. Get your eyes checked.

The Word is God the Father.

I don't do as you say. What has gotten into you to say such a thing about me? Show where I would blame my stomach for eating too much. That is insane. You prove your eyes are bad for saying such a thing. My physical eyes are good as are my spiritual eyes.
 

glorydaz

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When I was saved, I was saved by Jesus Christ. He came to live inside me.

He sent the Spirit to dwell in those who believe, but clearly you are blind to the Triune Nature of God.

Could be why you aren't being taught by the Spirit....you won't humble yourself long enough to BELIEVE much less admit what the Bible says so clearly. :think:
 

God's Truth

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He sent the Spirit to dwell in those who believe, but clearly you are blind to the Triune Nature of God.

Could be why you aren't being taught by the Spirit....you won't humble yourself long enough to BELIEVE much less admit what the Bible says so clearly. :think:

If I did not humble myself and repent of my sins, Jesus would not have saved me.
 

popsthebuilder

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It's a matter of knowing God. The trinity is a test to see if you know Him or not.

He hides from the proud...those who lean on their own understanding.

Isaiah 45:15 Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Saviour.

James 4:6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.​



If you have no concept of the nature of God, then you have not been convicted by the HOLY SPIRIT, and do not have the Holy Spirit abiding in you. "THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD".

2 Corinthians 4:5-6
For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake. For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

The first step for all men is to recognize our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. If you miss that, you'll miss the person of the Holy Spirit who Jesus sent.

John 8:12
Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.​
You aren't making much sense. The trinity is not salvific.

Pride in no way whatsoever correlates specifically to those who have a more singular understanding of GOD, rather than a tertiary one. Everything could be called a test for the believer. I don't know of too many Unitarians, but I can speak for myself and I don't deny the trinity, but the need to understand it to be accepted by GOD in the afterlife. I do not deny the Son, but believe that He is, as flesh, subsidiary in nature to the Father. The Holy Spirit seems to be that part of GOD that affects the faithful and communicates with them, and works through them.
 
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JudgeRightly

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Christ mean God/Lord/Spirit.

I will post the proof but I doubt that you will carefully consider them and reply with a careful answer.



All these scriptures I am going to post are about the same time in the desert. They are scriptures from different books, but they are all about the same time in the desert.
Read this scripture, it says we should not test CHRIST:

1 Corinthians 10:9 We should not test Christ, as some of them did--and were killed by snakes.


Did you read that? Jesus is Christ, agree? That scripture shows us that Christ was in the desert with Moses.

Now read this scripture:
Exodus 17:2
Therefore the people quarreled with Moses and said, "Give us water that we may drink." And Moses said to them, "Why do you quarrel with me? Why do you test the LORD?"

Did you read that?

MOSES says why you test the LORD.

Test who?

Christ.

Test who?

The LORD.

Now read this scripture:

Psalm 106:14
But craved intensely in the wilderness, And tempted God in the desert.

Did you read that?

Test who in the desert?

TESTED GOD.

Read this scripture:

Psalm 95:9
"When your fathers tested Me, They tried Me, though they had seen My work.

Tested who?

Tested Me.

Who is Me?

Me is God the Father and Jesus Christ the Son.

So then, we can see that Christ is the LORD God the Father.

"Χρίστος" ("Christos") is Greek for the Hebrew word "מָשִׁיחַ‎" (Mashiach, English "Messiah").

Messiah means "anointed one."

That's what the word means. You don't get to change its meaning to fit your theology. All of your points are irrelevant because they are based on a false premise.

Princess Bride is relevant here..
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JudgeRightly

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The Word is God the Father.

The Word is God, but not God the Father.

The Word is God the Son.

Son != Father != Holy Spirit.

The Son is one with The Father is one with The Holy Spirit

I don't do as you say. What has gotten into you to say such a thing about me? Show where I would blame my stomach for eating too much. That is insane. You prove your eyes are bad for saying such a thing. My physical eyes are good as are my spiritual eyes.

WHOOSH!!!!!!!!!
 

glorydaz

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You aren't making much sense. The trinity is not salvific.

Pride in no way whatsoever correlates specifically to those who have a more singular understanding of GOD, rather than a tertiary one. Everything could be called a test for the believer. I don't know of too many Unitarians, but I can speak for myself and I don't deny the trinity, but the need to understand it to be accepted by GOD in the afterlife. I do not deny the Son, but believe that He is, as flesh, subsidiary in nature to the Father. The Holy Spirit seems to be that part of GOD that affects the faithful and communicates with them, and works through them.

The problem for you is that, while in the flesh, Jesus was still God with a Divine nature. God can no more take off His Deity than man can take off his Humanity.

As I said, you don't acknowledge Jesus Christ is the ONE LORD GOD AND SAVIOUR.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.

John 1:14 The Word became flesh and dwelt among us...

It's nothing but stubborn pride that keeps you from believing what is so clearly written even a young child could see it. Only the cults claim Jesus is a "lesser God". And no matter how you try to disguise it, that's what you're claiming.

Jesus Christ is the image of the invisible God, and you refuse to believe it. We saw God when He became flesh and dwelt among us.
 

God's Truth

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"Χρίστος" ("Christos") is Greek for the Hebrew word "מָשִׁיחַ‎" (Mashiach, English "Messiah").

Messiah means "anointed one."

That's what the word means. You don't get to change its meaning to fit your theology. All of your points are irrelevant because they are based on a false premise.

Princess Bride is relevant here..
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Notice that you did not address any of the scriptures that I gave and the explanation.

That is NOT debating what you are doing. You are merely stating your beliefs and insulting.

By the way, being anointed does not take away from the fact that Jesus is the Christ, God, Messiah, Lord, and Father come in the flesh.
 

God's Truth

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"Χρίστος" ("Christos") is Greek for the Hebrew word "מָשִׁיחַ‎" (Mashiach, English "Messiah").

Messiah means "anointed one."

That's what the word means. You don't get to change its meaning to fit your theology. All of your points are irrelevant because they are based on a false premise.

Princess Bride is relevant here..
ebf86a0eee3139939efb6b7e24b47aef.gif

Another thing---

Messiah means Deliverer, Savior.

Those names are God the Father's names.

They are also Jesus' names.

They both have the same name because they are the same.
 
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