The Trinity

[God's Truth]

King Cyrus of Persia was the LORD's Christ-LXX.

How about you read the scriptures I gave to reason with you and comment on them?

 

[God's Truth]

ONCE AGAIN you IGNORE the WITH PART.

I ignore nothing. He was with God because He is the words of God and WAS GOD.

Are you not your words? Are your words not with you?

 

[glorydaz]

Jesus HIMSELF dwells in me.

And how does He do that? I know, you "eat Him".

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.​

Ephesians 3:16-17
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; 17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,​

1 Corinthians 6:19-20
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

 

[God's Truth]

And how does He do that? I know, you "eat Him".

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.​

Ephesians 3:16-17
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; 17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,​

1 Corinthians 6:19-20
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

There is only one divine Spirit. That Spirit is God the Father and Jesus Christ the Son.

Jesus himself saved me and lives inside of me.

 

[glorydaz]

I ignore nothing. He was with God because He is the words of God and WAS GOD.

Are you not your words? Are your words not with you?

You sound more like Keypurr with each passing day. :doh:

No, I am not my words, and my words are not me. The WORD is HIS NAME. NAME. NAME.

Revelation 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.​

 

[steko]

How about you read the scriptures I gave to reason with you and comment on them?

Isa 45:1 Thus saith the LORD to his anointed[Heb-mashisach/Grk-Christos], to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;

'cause I can read directly from Scripture.

 

[Tambora]

Isa 45:1 Thus saith the LORD to his anointed[Heb-mashisach/Grk-Christos], to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;

'cause I can read directly from Scripture.

Yeppers.

 

[glorydaz]

"Χρίστος" ("Christos") is Greek for the Hebrew word "מָשִׁיחַ‎" (Mashiach, English "Messiah").

Messiah means "anointed one."

That's what the word means. You don't get to change its meaning to fit your theology. All of your points are irrelevant because they are based on a false premise.

Princess Bride is relevant here..

I'm ready to give up on her again. She flat out refuses to listen and insists on trying to teach her false ideas....a false teacher like that is almost hopeless. :sigh:

 

[God's Truth]

(This is a copy of my personal testimony of receiving faith in GOD. I was and am reluctant to post it here for a multitude of reasons. It isn't tuned towards any certain audience in particular and is simply a recount of what I recall that seemed relevant to the accuracy of the account. Thanks to those who read with an opened mind and who showed interest.

peace)

This is a copy that I wrote to someone who had inquiries about two years ago I guess.

Please ask anything and give honest opinion.

Okay. A little back ground is in order I suppose.

From early childhood up until what happened I was an atheist or agnostic. I remember thinking at a young age that there couldn't be a God because pain and suffering seemed to be observable everywhere. At some point I did consider the Sun to be a higher power of sorts as no life that I knew of could live without it. I remember asking my father once if he thought there was a God. After careful consideration he replied that he did not know. I lived with my mom. We didn't go to church much; maybe a handful of times in early childhood. She wasn't really spiritual or religious that I could tell. I do recall my grandmother being a believer because at family gatherings she would insist that someone said grace or have thanks to God. Anyway, I went through life in relative solitude, always being somewhat odd or different I guess. At an early age I recognized pain as an electronic signal of sorts. In doing so I was able to train myself to endure quite a bit of it. I turned myself off emotionally somehow, letting little really affect me. I began to realize that anger and pain could be channeled and used as strength and motivation. Not being spiritual in any way, I guess I didn't realize the ramifications this could have later.

Fast forward to mid twenties. All lessons I learned the hard way, taking no advice from any, finding out for myself. Personal failure and disappointment on a constant level made me self loathing. Severe drug addiction made it worse. Though I had strength I couldn't stop by my own will seemingly. I hated pretty much everything, but most of all, myself. I awoke angry and fell asleep angry for years, even before serious drug addiction. I fought myself for a couple of years trying to change the direction I was witnessing myself going. I used to park at graveyards and contemplate death. I fervently wished I had the strength to kill myself, and hated myself that much more for being too cowardly to go through with it. Throughout my life, but mostly throughout my addiction, I had a lot of time to contemplate things, and view my own actions or the lack there of retrospectively. Somewhere in the midst of all this I recall sincerely swallowing my misplaced pride which was all but gone already, and asking for help. I pleaded to GOD, Christ, Jesus, whatever. I did this once. I realized that regardless of what I thought and how strong I thought I was, I couldn't seem to be able to make the change for better happen. Down, at my lowest point, I recall seeing what most likely would have been explained away by anyone(including myself) as a smudge on a window. There was light coming through. Regardless, the smudge had the vague form of an Angel. I don't know exactly why, but seeing that gave me an inkling of hope. I was still severely addicted though I had lost almost everything I had ever cared about. A woman I had a child with had taken me in at this point and the three of us were struggling pretty bad. She told me she was moving back home and said I could come. I did. I vaguely recall seeing something again when we moved. I don't even remember what it was, but I do remember that it reminded me of what I had seen on the window, and again that misplaced hope surfaced. Months went by. Her, my son, and myself moved in together in her home town. I had not used since we moved. I made a trip back home and used for one night. I returned and went back to not using. Throughout this time I still had all the same hate and anger that I had before. Though I was doing better as far as my drug addiction was concerned, she wasn't really trying to change. Our son was in the middle. This and other things brought great tention on our relationship. I went to jail for a somewhat unrelated reason. I got out about a month later I guess. When I returned home with her and my son I realized she had been doing some really messed up things while I was gone. I was so worried for the upbringing of my son that I justified killing her and going to prison, because I thought my son would be better off. I chased her for about a half an hour, methodically. She couldn't leave because I had her car keys. For those minutes I did intent to take her life with my hands. Thankfully, I eventually have her her keys and she left.

Okay, so that was a lot of back story. Sorry if it bored you. I've never went into that much detail about it but it seemed necessary to convey the state of mind I was in.

I'm not sure if it was the next day or a couple of days later.

I'm driving home from work on a usual road. Listening to the radio as I drive. The radio fades out to silence. This never happened before. I adjust the station and volume to no avail whatsoever...silence. Suddenly and inexplicably I feel this great weight, this huge burden lifted from me. My anger, pain, and hatred are removed all at once. I am overwhelmed with joy as tears flow freely from my eyes( something that previously just didn't really happen). I am utterly and wholly grateful and thank GOD. Many things begin to come into my mind. Things I never even fathomed. I am shown, in my mind, how GOD was with me through all things I had endured. I was shown how every step in my life had been for a reason and that GOD had been ever present through it all regardless of my obliviousness to it. I was shown how GOD was there before my conception and through my troubled birth. I was shown that I was here for a reason and that all I had been through was too, for a reason. Many understandings and revelations took place. Then things stopped coming into my mind. An utter peace never thought possible was with me. A joyous expectation of life filled me. The radio fades back in to the same station and volume it had been at. I felt the strong edge to write down what had taken place. When I got home, I found the nearest utensils at hand and began writing. I had intended to describe the happenings that had taken place. What I wrote is more of some sort of moral code. This all happened when I was thirty in 2011. I never really looked at those writings again for about four years. At which time I started reading the bible. For some reason I don't recall I found this invoice book that I had written in years before. When I read it it was as if it had been taken out of the bible or something because of the nature of the written material.

I had never read the bible or really even heard it prior to writing what I wrote.


In the past couple of years other things have happened and changes have taken place. But that is a different story I suppose. Regardless of what happens to me for whatever reasons, I will never forget the miraculous event that took place in my life by the grace and mercy of GOD.
All praise and thanks is to GOD.

I almost missed this post. Sometimes posts do not register on my computer until later, and if I did not venture back I would not have seen this. What you wrote and shared is so personal, and deep, and meaningful, and no words from me will rightly convey how much I appreciate it. I see now what you mean by you were given hope and faith. You cried out to God to help you and He did.

I would say you did already repent of your sins because you did want to stop sinning. Would you agree? It seems to be you were saved and given the Holy Spirit.

 

[glorydaz]

Jesus himself saved me and lives inside of me.

Your words prove otherwise.

 

[God's Truth]

Your words prove otherwise.

Oh stop it, Jan.

 

[God's Truth]

Isa 45:1 Thus saith the LORD to his anointed[Heb-mashisach/Grk-Christos], to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;

'cause I can read directly from Scripture.

I am speaking about God. Who are you speaking about?

 

[God's Truth]

I'm ready to give up on her again. She flat out refuses to listen and insists on trying to teach her false ideas....a false teacher like that is almost hopeless. :sigh:

I tell you, what I am saying is truth.

 

[steko]

I am speaking about God. Who are you speaking about?

I'm speaking about the Scriptural definition of the word 'Christ' which means 'anointed'.

The word is used of several different people in Scripture other than Jesus of Nazareth.

 

[God's Truth]

Isa 45:1 Thus saith the LORD to his anointed[Heb-mashisach/Grk-Christos], to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;

'cause I can read directly from Scripture.

Read the scriptures I gave, okay?

 

[God's Truth]

I'm speaking about the Scriptural definition of the word 'Christ' which means 'anointed'.

The word is used of several different people in Scripture other than Jesus of Nazareth.

I am speaking about Jesus.

Those saved are anointed with the Holy Spirit, but let's speak about Jesus only.

 

[glorydaz]

Oh stop it, Jan.

I wouldn't say it if I didn't mean it. You have been preaching the same thing for years, and so many of us have tried to get you to listen. You act like you might, and then you go right back to the same false gospel of obeying in order to be saved. That is not the Gospel.

Your foundation is built on sinking sand, which is why you are unable to see what is clearly and plainly written concerning all things spiritual.

I pray for you all the time, but I really do not hold out much hope you will ever listen.

So, no, I won't stop it. I will tell you what I know you need to hear.

 

[glorydaz]

I am speaking about Jesus.

Those saved are anointed with the Holy Spirit, but let's speak about Jesus only.

See, Steko is trying to teach you something that is crucial to this error you keep preaching.

You don't even want to talk about it. That is a shame...a horrible shame.

 

[steko]

Read the scriptures I gave, okay?

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[God's Truth]

I wouldn't say it if I didn't mean it. You have been preaching the same thing for years, and so many of us have tried to get you to listen. You act like you might, and then you go right back to the same false gospel of obeying in order to be saved. That is not the Gospel.

I obeyed to get saved, and I continue to obey to stay saved. There is nothing I would rather do than obey Jesus.

Your foundation is built on sinking sand,

hahahaha Jesus' words are not sand.

Matthew 7:24 "Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock.

which is why you are unable to see what is clearly and plainly written concerning all things spiritual.

I pray for you all the time, but I really do not hold out much hope you will ever listen.

So, no, I won't stop it. I will tell you what I know you need to hear.

You don't have to worry about me, friend, glad you will not toss me aside.