The Trinity

[God's Truth]

To be saved.



Jesus Christ and His finished/completed work on the Cross of Calvary.

Answer the question.

What do we only have to believe to be saved.

You are squirming and twisting.

Just answer the question.

 

[NWL]

What does the Trinity of God has to do with your doctrine stating that Jesus is an Archangel?

Good question. The bible nowhere uses the word trinity nor does it explicitly teach it anywhere in scripture, nowhere does scripture state God is three persons who is One God or anything even remotely close to that.

In light of all this people still believe in the trinity doctrine even though there is no direct or clear teaching of it. People, such as yourself will rely on other less indirect evidence in support for such a belief.

Likewise the Bible does not directly teach that Jesus is Micheal the Archangel the same way it doesn't teach God is a trinity. What we have however are a number of verses that seem to allude and imply that Jesus is the Michael the Archangel the same way others conclude God is a trinity.

What you have to remember however is that if I found out tomorrow that Jesus 100% could not be Michael the Archangel it wouldn't change my belief system in the slightest. Jesus being Michael to a JW is like arguing whether or not the fruit Adam and Eve ate was an apple or unknown fruit, it doesn't really matter what it was because it doesn't change anything.

So like I said I'll provide you with a scripture that says Jesus is an Archangel if you can show me a scripture that states God is a trinity.

 

[God's Truth]

Really, gt???? Really????

When did you receive such revelation from the risen Lord Christ Jesus?

Could you testify of that wondrous moment? Thank you.

Did you just hear a voice or did you saw the risen Lord Christ Jesus Himself?

Wow! What a responsibility. Tell us all about it.

You said it was only given to Paul and that he says it is 'his' gospel.

I gave you many scriptures where Paul calls it 'our' gospel.

You need to check yourself and admit you were taught something.

 

[lifeisgood]

Show from scripture when Jesus went to people's homes he said they needed to give it away.

You say you obey ALL of Jesus’ commands and He commanded ‘sell everything you have.’

Jesus did not preach world wide homelessness.

I have never made such a statement.

With your ignorant demand, you make the poor the worst sinners of all.

I am not demanding anything gt, you are the one that vociferously says for all to see that you obey ALL of Jesus’ commandments and Jesus commands ‘sell everything you have.’

You make the poor who received something and keeps it a sinner.

What????

You don't have understanding that is why you say such bizarre things.

The only one who say such bizarre things as ‘I, gt, obey ALL Jesus’ commandments’ is you, gt.

 

[God's Truth]

Good question. The bible nowhere uses the word trinity nor does it explicitly teach it anywhere in scripture, nowhere does scripture state God is three persons who is One God or anything even remotely close to that.

In light of all this people still believe in the trinity doctrine even though there is no direct or clear teaching of it. People, such as yourself will rely on other less indirect evidence in support for such a belief.

Likewise the Bible does not directly teach that Jesus is Micheal the Archangel the same way it doesn't teach God is a trinity. What we have however are a number of verses that seem to allude and imply that Jesus is the Michael the Archangel the same way others conclude God is a trinity.

What you have to remember however is that if I found out tomorrow that Jesus 100% could not be Michael the Archangel it wouldn't change my belief system in the slightest. Jesus being Michael to a JW is like arguing whether or not the fruit Adam and Eve ate was an apple or unknown fruit, it doesn't really matter what it was because it doesn't change anything.

So like I said I'll provide you with a scripture that says Jesus is an Archangel if you can show me a scripture that states God is a trinity.

You just admitted that your beliefs are from the imagination of men, just like the trinity doctrine is.

 

[lifeisgood]

Give the scripture where Jesus tells us all to do that.

You are the one who proudly proclaim that you obey ALL of Jesus' commandments and He said 'sell all you have.' Take a deep breath first, please, and think about that for a moment.

 

[God's Truth]

You say you obey ALL of Jesus’ commands and He commanded ‘sell everything you have.’

Why won’t you give the scripture? You were asked many times to give the scripture and you pretend you did not hear that.

 

[lifeisgood]

Answer the question.

What do we only have to believe to be saved.

You are squirming and twisting.

Just answer the question.

I have answered your question more than once. Here it is one more time believe Jesus Christ and His finished/completed work on the Cross of Calvary exclusively to be saved.

 

[lifeisgood]

Good question.

Don't have an answer. Therefore, have to CHANGE my response. Naughty, naughty.

 

[God's Truth]

I have never made such a statement.

You sure did. You said Jesus commands everyone to sell their home. You preach Jesus promotes worldwide homelessness; except for the poor, which makes the poor the worst of sinners because they would receive homes and do not give them away.

 

[lifeisgood]

You said it was only given to Paul and that he says it is 'his' gospel.

I gave you many scriptures where Paul calls it 'our' gospel.

You need to check yourself and admit you were taught something.

You, gt, have never received the revelation of your gospel, however, you say, 'my, gt, gospel'. Got it.

 

[God's Truth]

You are the one who proudly proclaim that you obey ALL of Jesus' commandments and He said 'sell all you have.' Take a deep breath first, please, and think about that for a moment.

All should observe how you refuse to give a scripture.

 

[God's Truth]

You, gt, have never received the revelation of your gospel, however, you say, 'my, gt, gospel'. Got it.

hahahaha You are not doing so well are you. You have the choice now to repent or keep going on with your false beliefs.

Paul says 'our' gospel and you say it was ONLY 'his'!

Repent.

 

[lifeisgood]

You sure did. You said Jesus commands everyone to sell their home. You preach Jesus promotes worldwide homelessness; except for the poor, which makes the poor the worst of sinners because they would receive homes and do not give them away.

No, gt, you, gt say I, gt, obey ALL of Jesus' commandments and Jesus commanded 'sell everything you have.' Think about that for a moment, gt.

 

[lifeisgood]

hahahaha You are not doing so well are you. You have the choice now to repent or keep going on with your false beliefs.

Paul says 'our gospel and you say it was ONLY 'his'!

Repent.

NEVER made such statement. You on the other hand says I preach 'my, gt, gospel'. You must slow down a little bit, gt. You are letting your emotions get the best of you.

 

[NWL]

You just admitted that your beliefs are from the imagination of men, just like the trinity doctrine is.

In a murder trial invloving more than one suspect there may be evidence to suggest that two indivduals committed the murder even though one of the suspects is completely innocent. Does the evidence that the innocent suspect was the murderer mean that he somehow isn't innoect? No, why because evidence doesn't always tell the whole story.

Likewise the trinity doctrine does have evidence although its not hard evidence, it's certainly not correct in my opinion not because of the evidence but because of evidence against it. Does that mean that because I use the same method of exegesis in relation to a single biblical understanding mean that I'm incorrect, plainly no since the evidence t suggest that Jesus is an spiritual being separate from God fits more in line with Jesus possibly being Michael. I wouldn't bet my life on it that Jesus is Michael, but it is an extremely high possibility.

 

[lifeisgood]

All should observe how you refuse to give a scripture.

You have made up such a scripture when you, gt, says, "I, gt, obey ALL of Jesus' commandments" and Jesus said 'sell everything you have.' Think about it for a little bit, gt.

 

[God's Truth]

No, gt, you, gt say I, gt, obey ALL of Jesus' commandments and Jesus commanded 'sell everything you have.' Think about that for a moment, gt.

You are not in the scriptures but are in the imagination of men.

Do you know where false doctrines come from?

They come from the imaginations of men, put there by the prince of the air.

 

[God's Truth]

NEVER made such statement. You on the other hand says I preach 'my, gt, gospel'. You must slow down a little bit, gt. You are letting your emotions get the best of you.

No such thing is happening, accuser.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Jesus doesn't command that. Why do you keep repeating the same thing you had explained to you? Give me a scripture where Jesus commands that all should sell everything to enter the kingdom.

Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?”So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”He said to Him, “Which ones?” Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept from my youth. What do I still lack?”Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.” - Matthew 19:16-21 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew19:16-21&version=NKJV

Now a certain ruler asked Him, saying, “Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?”So Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God.You know the commandments: ‘Do not commit adultery,’ ‘Do not murder,’ ‘Do not steal,’ ‘Do not bear false witness,’ ‘Honor your father and your mother.’ ”And he said, “All these things I have kept from my youth.”So when Jesus heard these things, He said to him, “You still lack one thing. Sell all that you have and distribute to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.” - Luke 18:18-22 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke18:18-22&version=NKJV