The Trinity

The Trinity


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glorydaz

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Jesus went back to what he had with the Father before coming to earth, and that is God the Father with a body.

That scripture you gave proves it.

For what did Jesus go back to heaven and receive? He received the same Spiritual body that he had before coming to earth.

Jesus gave up his Spiritual body that he had in heaven and took on the body of flesh.

NO....

ERROR....made up baloney. :down:


The Father is a spirit, He does not have a "spiritual body".
 

God's Truth

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It proves there are two entities, not one;

2 Timothy 2:15 King James Version (KJV)

15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. :poly:

There is ONLY ONE Divine Spirit.

Prove with scripture that there are more than one Divine Spirits.

I have asked you this before and you don't keep up.

Answer the questions:

Is God the Father a Spirit?

Is Jesus Christ the Son a Spirit?

Is the Holy Spirit a Spirit?
 

Bright Raven

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There is ONLY ONE Divine Spirit.

Prove with scripture that there are more than one Divine Spirits.

I have asked you this before and you don't keep up.

Answer the questions:

Is God the Father a Spirit?

Is Jesus Christ the Son a Spirit?

Is the Holy Spirit a Spirit?

God the Father is not the Holy Spirit.

John 14:16 King James Version (KJV)

16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

What other heretical things do you have to say? Quite a bit I'm sure.
 

JudgeRightly

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There is ONLY ONE Divine Spirits.

Prove with scripture that there are more than one Divine Spirit.

I have asked you this before and you don't keep up.

Answer the questions:

Is God the Father a Spirit?

Is Jesus Christ the Son a Spirit?

Is the Holy Spirit a Spirit?
Here you go.

But he, being full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God, and said, “Look! I see the heavens opened and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God!” - Acts 7:55-56 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts7:55-56&version=NKJV

Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us. - Romans 8:34 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans8:34&version=NKJV

which He worked in Christ when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places, - Ephesians 1:20 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians1:20&version=NKJV

who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, - Hebrews 1:3 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews1:3&version=NKJV

Now this is the main point of the things we are saying: We have such a High Priest, who is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens, - Hebrews 8:1 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews8:1&version=NKJV

Your position has been refuted by scripture. Give it up.
 

God's Truth

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Maybe glorydaze wants to apologize?

No worries. You were right however, I am a JW and just to let you know Jehovah's witnesses don't deny Jesus is God, we deny he his God being part of a trinity. It is a misconception that JW's don't believe Jesus is a God.

Now will glorydaze and you get it straight?
 

God's Truth

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God the Father is not the Holy Spirit.

John 14:16 King James Version (KJV)

16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

What other heretical things do you have to say? Quite a bit I'm sure.

Why can't you answer the questions? HA

Answer the questions:

Is God the Father a Spirit?

Is Jesus Christ the Son a Spirit?

Is the Holy Spirit a Spirit?
 

NWL

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Speaking of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Col. 1:16-17 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.​

Notice how all things were created by Him and for Him. Compare it to the verse you quoted below.

I love it! So you're trying to fight scripture with scripture, very smart of you. Lets have a look and see what the scripture you showed says.

Col 1:16

NIV: For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.

NLT: For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.

ESV: For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him.

KJV: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him


The writer of Col uses the Greek word dia, which can have both a causal [by] and intermediate [through] meanings. How do we know it has an intermediary meaning when it comes to Christ in Col 1:16, because the writer uses Greek passive word forms, such as ektisqh, showing that Christ did not create but that things were created through him by another. It is for this reason most modern translations, not like the one you decided to use, state that things were created through Jesus in Col 1:16.

As already shown, both Hebrews 1:1,2 and 2 Cor 8:6 show that the act of creating was by means of the father and through Jesus. Again you arguing about something which is widely known and elementary. You're arguing about the undeniable.

Paul is teaching the Shema here. One God, One Lord. The Lord our God is one Lord.

I didn't show 1 Cor 8:6 because it talks about God being one, re-read it, 1 Cor 8:6 says "there is only one God, the Father, who created everything, and we live for him. And there is only one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom God made everything". It cleary shows that things were made BY God THROUGH Jesus. How you're arguing against this I don't know.
 

NWL

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Like I said to you, I doesn't really matter. Remember 2 Cor 4:4 says Satan is God, does it matter? Nope.
 

God's Truth

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Here you go.

But he, being full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God, and said, “Look! I see the heavens opened and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God!” - Acts 7:55-56 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts7:55-56&version=NKJV

Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us. - Romans 8:34 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans8:34&version=NKJV

which He worked in Christ when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places, - Ephesians 1:20 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians1:20&version=NKJV

who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, - Hebrews 1:3 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews1:3&version=NKJV

Now this is the main point of the things we are saying: We have such a High Priest, who is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens, - Hebrews 8:1 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews8:1&version=NKJV

Your position has been refuted by scripture. Give it up.

What do you mean "Here you go"????

Answer the questions:

Is God the Father a Spirit?

Is Jesus Christ the Son a Spirit?

Is the Holy Spirit a Spirit?
 

Bright Raven

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Why can't you answer the questions? HA

Answer the questions:

Is God the Father a Spirit?

Is Jesus Christ the Son a Spirit?

Is the Holy Spirit a Spirit?

The Father is Spirit.

Jesus is fully God and Fully man.

The Spirit is the Comforter sent from them Father.

Try to prove any of them wrong!
 
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