ECT What gospel was Paul saved under?
- Thread starter Lazy afternoon
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So you say Peter did not have his sins forgiven for it was yet future for him??
Paul was not the first to have his sins forgiven and not the first to preach it.
Present salvation is sins forgiven to be reconciled with God, (with mediation from the Throne for those in Gods Kingdom) and future salvation is the resurrection, which applies equally to both Peter and Paul at the same time.
Anything else is a lie from hell.
LA
There is just no way that Paul could be saved except through the forgiveness of sin made possible by the blood of Christ, and the word preached, which Paul would have heard countless times from those who suffered by his hand.
Paul was fighting within himself against the truth when Christ appeared to Paul at the same time as he began to surrender to it.
Paul did not have some special salvation separated from those before him.
Paul washed away his sins through obeying Acts 2:38 as all in Acts did with the Holy Spirit doing the washing and men obeying the command to be baptized in water.
Believers are united with the existing body of Christ by the Spirit and by obedience to the commands of the great commission and so was Paul.
There were others in Christ before Paul.
(Marowbe should ask how he can be in Christ without either meeting Christ or obeying Him at all, and breaking the commandments of Christ in almost every post)
LA
Paul did not.
Paul obeyed the gospel first given to the Apostles to preach.
Paul grew up in a fellowship of Christians and leant there.
LA
I am warning you.
If you want a war of insults then I am sure the Lord can arrange it for you.
LA
Hi , and Gal 2:20 and Rom 6:3-4 say we were Crucified and Rom says we were we are BAPTIZO / PLACED into His death !!:bang::bang:
dan p
Yes,
Pauls physical condition of blindness was showing Paul his spiritual blindness.
The time is coming soon when ones blindness or unblinding will be the case for everyone as it happened to Paul, unblinding if they repent as Paul did.
Your name is not written in the Bible and I doubt that it is written in Heaven.
You want to choose all the good bits for yourself because you act by presumption, and not by Gods calling.
There is no Christ in you.
You are just playing religion.
LA
Hi and are you saying that I play RELIGION better than you , BUT I play Paul better than you is the answer !!
You are just angry because you have no answers as I have given proof and scripture for backup , but you Nothing and will be Judged by Paul's Gospel , Rom 2:16 , so take that and that and that !!:sigh::yawn::yawn:
dan p
I would have said a lot more than that if I was angry.
You avoid the keys of the Kingdom given by Christ to Peter and try to get in without true repentance and true faith.
You are shut out, or to put it another way--
You are a ratbag.
LA
Nang
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Of course. All saints, saved by the grace of God, since the beginning on time, are the redeemed Sons of God.
This is what MADist try to deny ... but it is a horrible notion.
It would eliminate Mary from being in Christ, before Paul! How ridiculous and obscene is that?
Nang,
being IN Christ was a new thing for believers of faith.
but all of faith will be gathered into Christ at his coming.
Heb 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:
Heb 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.
LA
No, I did not say it. Peter said it. Deal with it, Legion.
Nang
TOL Subscriber
I do not understand . . are you saying Peter was unsaved prior to Paul preaching the Gospel?
Even if that strange scenario was accepted as fact ( which cannot be ) then what was Peter's ministry?
Are you thinking that the Jews were only receiving teachings in the name of Christ, from unsaved men (e.g. Peter) outside faith or salvific position in Christ, at all?
Nick is saying Peter's sins and all the early church are not forgiven until the return of Christ.
That is what MAD teaches.
LA
It's obvious you don't know how to, "Rightly Divide he Word!"
Hebrews pertained to the "Hebrews" not the Body of Christ!
I'll tell you what's "Horrible" in one word; "Calvinism!" You
are a member of that, false belief system!
You're having quite a temper tantrum for a guy that doesn't know
what he's talking about? You have nothing to defend? Best to spend
your days reading/studying what, The Apostle Paul has to say about
how to become a "Child of God?"
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Since "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness", one can safely assume you read that out of a commentary.
I have thought for a long while that you defend such shallow/incomplete understanding to excuse yourself from responsibility. I believe I am right in assuming that of you.
2 Timothy 3:16 (KJV)
Will you next, make one of your "predictions" about his (DanP) demise?