TOL is for Dialogue!!!

[chrysostom]

not merely forgiven (though they are that) but actually JUSTIFIED:

our sins are not forgiven
until we repent, ask for forgiveness, and forgive others

 

[resodko]

Why the heck do I waste my time here? The stupidity of this forum literally hurts me sometimes...

not a fan of lsatsb, eh?

 

[Sherman]

No. I am not.

Is that because of myself, or any inherent righteousness of my own, or due to anything I did, or could do? No. In myself, I am nothing and have nothing. No righteousness, no strength, no hope. I am, in myself, bankrupt, destitute, wretched, miserable, poor, blind, naked, wicked, contemptible, condemnable and damned. As you are. In that respect, you are I are no different.

But now...

I am in Christ. Now and forever. God has declared me as having died with His Son, having risen from the dead with His Son, and am seated at God's right hand in His Son. Because of all that -- because of what He did for me -- I have been forever separated from sin and from God's condemning Law.

So no...I, the new, real me that has been created in Christ, is not a sinner. That is the only "me" I'm to give any thought to because that's the only "me" God now sees.

Your turn.

:first:
Post of the day!

 

[resodko]

now that's some mighty fine dialoguing, that is


good one musty! :first:

 

[musterion]

our sins are not forgiven
until we repent, ask for forgiveness, and forgive others

If that be so, it's because you're not in Christ. One cannot be in Him and be unforgiven and unjustified of all sin. Sorry. It's your eternity. Have it your way.

 

[Eeset]

Why the heck do I waste my time here? The stupidity of this forum literally hurts me sometimes...

Only sometimes?

 

[Angel4Truth]

still waiting for an explanation of this

Romans 7:17 So now, no longer am I the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me.

 

[Eeset]

How interesting.

 

[Tambora]

Why the heck do I waste my time here?

It's a choice you chose.

 

[chrysostom]

Romans 7:17 So now, no longer am I the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me.

here paul is explaining original sin
we know we can't stop sinning
but
we know we can't stop trying to not sin
and
we know we need help for that
we know we must ask for that help
so
you are still sinning

 

[Delmar]

You are talking to "true and saved" Christians. They believe they cannot sin.

That's what OSAS doctrine is all about.

What part of " as far as the East is from the West" do you not understand?

 

[Letsargue]

here paul is explaining original sin
we know we can't stop sinning
but
we know we can't stop trying to not sin
and
we know we need help for that
we know we must ask for that help
so
you are still sinning

((( That's "NOT" What Christ ended up Saying )))!!

In the Body of Christ there IS NO SIN!!! - That is, (( "IF" )) You are in the Body of Christ!!

Now ( PROVE THAT WRONG )!!!!

PAUL, DAVID -- 012715

 

[chrysostom]

so why is dialogue so difficult?

I can only speculate

I love it when you speculate

we don't agree on terminology

like what?

salvation, forgiveness, and redemption

aren't they the same?

not at all

how do they differ?

first comes redemption

is that for everyone?

yes

then what?

repentance

is that necessary?

absolutely

then what?

forgiving others and forgiveness

then salvation?

yes

 

[Letsargue]

so why is dialogue so difficult?

I can only speculate

I love it when you speculate

we don't agree on terminology

like what?

salvation, forgiveness, and redemption

aren't they the same?

not at all

how do they differ?

first comes redemption

is that for everyone?

yes

then what?

repentance

is that necessary?

absolutely

then what?

forgiving others and forgiveness

then salvation?

yes

There Can be NO True Dialogue with a Catholic OR Any Modern so ( Called Christian ) Person OR GROUP!!

Only The Scriptures / the Word of GOD in the Bible has Anything to do with any TRUTH!!

((( Romans 3:10-13 )))!!! - Have Dialogue with WHO!!!!

Why should I go any farther here!!!

PAUL, DAVID -- 012715

 

[chrysostom]

There Can be NO True Dialogue with a Catholic OR Any Modern so ( Called Christian ) Person OR GROUP!!

Only The Scriptures / the Word of GOD in the Bible has Anything to do with any TRUTH!!

((( Romans 3:10-13 )))!!! - Have Dialogue with WHO!!!!

Why should I go any farther here!!!

PAUL, DAVID -- 012715

thanks for letting us know that you are not going to participate

 

[bybee]

There Can be NO True Dialogue with a Catholic OR Any Modern so ( Called Christian ) Person OR GROUP!!

Only The Scriptures / the Word of GOD in the Bible has Anything to do with any TRUTH!!

((( Romans 3:10-13 )))!!! - Have Dialogue with WHO!!!!

Why should I go any farther here!!!

PAUL, DAVID -- 012715

You are projecting!

 

[meshak]

What part of " as far as the East is from the West" do you not understand?

What does osas have anything to do with your bible expression?

 

[meshak]

here paul is explaining original sin
we know we can't stop sinning
but
we know we can't stop trying to not sin
and
we know we need help for that
we know we must ask for that help
so
you are still sinning

well said.

Jesus commands us to be perfect. We cannot achieve it while we are alive but Jesus still expects us to aim for perfection.

 

[annabenedetti]

so why is dialogue so difficult?

It can be tiring and frustrating. I'm about dialogued out these days.

 

[meshak]

It can be tiring and frustrating. I'm about dialogued out these days.

That's why I have so many posters on ignore to keep myself from going insane.