not merely forgiven (though they are that) but actually JUSTIFIED:
our sins are not forgiven
until we repent, ask for forgiveness, and forgive others
not merely forgiven (though they are that) but actually JUSTIFIED:
Why the heck do I waste my time here? The stupidity of this forum literally hurts me sometimes...
:first:No. I am not.
Is that because of myself, or any inherent righteousness of my own, or due to anything I did, or could do? No. In myself, I am nothing and have nothing. No righteousness, no strength, no hope. I am, in myself, bankrupt, destitute, wretched, miserable, poor, blind, naked, wicked, contemptible, condemnable and damned. As you are. In that respect, you are I are no different.
But now...
I am in Christ. Now and forever. God has declared me as having died with His Son, having risen from the dead with His Son, and am seated at God's right hand in His Son. Because of all that -- because of what He did for me -- I have been forever separated from sin and from God's condemning Law.
So no...I, the new, real me that has been created in Christ, is not a sinner. That is the only "me" I'm to give any thought to because that's the only "me" God now sees.
Your turn.
our sins are not forgiven
until we repent, ask for forgiveness, and forgive others
Only sometimes?Why the heck do I waste my time here? The stupidity of this forum literally hurts me sometimes...
still waiting for an explanation of this
It's a choice you chose.Why the heck do I waste my time here?
Romans 7:17 So now, no longer am I the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me.
You are talking to "true and saved" Christians. They believe they cannot sin.
That's what OSAS doctrine is all about.
here paul is explaining original sin
we know we can't stop sinning
but
we know we can't stop trying to not sin
and
we know we need help for that
we know we must ask for that help
so
you are still sinning
so why is dialogue so difficult?
I can only speculate
I love it when you speculate
we don't agree on terminology
like what?
salvation, forgiveness, and redemption
aren't they the same?
not at all
how do they differ?
first comes redemption
is that for everyone?
yes
then what?
repentance
is that necessary?
absolutely
then what?
forgiving others and forgiveness
then salvation?
yes
There Can be NO True Dialogue with a Catholic OR Any Modern so ( Called Christian ) Person OR GROUP!!
Only The Scriptures / the Word of GOD in the Bible has Anything to do with any TRUTH!!
((( Romans 3:10-13 )))!!! - Have Dialogue with WHO!!!!
Why should I go any farther here!!!
PAUL, DAVID -- 012715
There Can be NO True Dialogue with a Catholic OR Any Modern so ( Called Christian ) Person OR GROUP!!
Only The Scriptures / the Word of GOD in the Bible has Anything to do with any TRUTH!!
((( Romans 3:10-13 )))!!! - Have Dialogue with WHO!!!!
Why should I go any farther here!!!
PAUL, DAVID -- 012715
What part of " as far as the East is from the West" do you not understand?
here paul is explaining original sin
we know we can't stop sinning
but
we know we can't stop trying to not sin
and
we know we need help for that
we know we must ask for that help
so
you are still sinning
so why is dialogue so difficult?
It can be tiring and frustrating. I'm about dialogued out these days.