When He sends the fallen angels to hell the Great God shows no mercy.
The Unjust, Unmerciful, Unrighteous God of Calvinism
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When He sends the fallen angels to hell the Great God shows no mercy.
The fallen angels are without an excuse.
They were part of God's heavenly creation and yet they chose to rebel against their creator.
Brother Ducky
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I think sin is an issue that you are not addressing here.
We are all sinners without works.
No one can chose to be a sinner. Just like no one can chose to be righteous.
It is not anyones fault that they are sinners, they are born into sin, Psalm 51:5. If it is anyones fault its Adam's fault.
"Wherefore, as by one man sin entered the world and death by sin; and so death passed upon ALL MEN, for that all have sinned" Romans 5:12.
This is why God would be unjust to condemn people to hell because of sin. Its not their fault.
Romans 5 is the reason you don't need to jump through this semantic hoop. Of course people go to Hell because of sin, not because of Adam's sin, but their own sin.
Why won't people read Ezekiel 18 when I cite it?
In this context the only answer is Adam.
Thousands of babies are murdered in this country every single day, all without having committed a single sin.
Not personally. Are you suggesting, as Calvinists commonly believe, that babies go to Hell?
Calvinists commonly believe that every baby that dies does so in sin and without Christ. Don't believe me? Ask Beloved57.
Further, in the Calvinist world view, no one chooses their own actions in the first place! There is no such thing as volition and where there is no volition there is no morality, a robot is amoral.
Resting in Him,
Clete
YES!
You cannot be arbitrary and just at the same time. No one can act both reasonably and unreasonably at the same time.
The word mercy has no meaning in the Calvinist worldview!
You cannot be merciful unless someone deserves harshness.
People will not be going to hell because of sin.
They will be going to hell because of unbelief.
Ezekiel 18 was written under the law. It is not profitable for doctrine.
As Adam goes so go we.
He is our first Father. We have his genes and his blood coursing through our veins.
beloved57
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Invalid comment, hell is the second death and death is the wages of sin ! Rom 6:23 !
bsmitts
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Let the Bible speak for itself: Salvation: Ephesians 2:8-9; Proof of salvation: John 15:5 James 2:14-24; Matthew 25:31-40; Matthew 16:24-27 You don't need works? I don't think so!
beloved57
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Since when did you believe the bible ?
Sin is the results of unbelief.
Because you do not believe you will be found in your sins.
Is that your catchall. Let's ask you. Since when have you believed the bible?
Nanja
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beloved57
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Death is the result of sin Rom 6:23, and so when one goes into the second death Rev 20:14 its because of sin Rev 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Your ignorant statement that people dont go to hell for sin is a lie !