lifeisgood
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Really??? Then you have never met a JW or a Mormon. Got it.
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Really??? Then you have never met a JW or a Mormon. Got it.
lifeisgood
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He lives in those who believe exclusively in Him and His finished work on the Cross of Calvary.
You have NOT obeyed ALL His commands as you have many times when asked, said that 'hmmm... nah, hmmm.... no that commandment is not for gt.'
However, you vociferously keeps on demanding, almost furiously, that we must OBEY ALL His commands, however, you have not set the example of what you demand.
John 14:23 – Jesus talking about what He speaks is based on love, which is the exact opposite of what the Apostles were saying, which was force. They wanted Jesus to use His Power to force Rome and other people of the world to recognize Israel as the premier nation. Jesus is saying that His manifestation of Himself was to the heart, was inward and spiritual, therefore, the heart enjoying His abiding in it.
Acts 5:32 – Their Doctrine was NOT a mere philosophy, rather eyewitness accounts. The witness of the Holy Spirit in the hearts and lives of Believers guarantees the veracity of all that Christ has done at the Cross.
As I have said to you many times – take the verse out of its original context and a pretext is being promoted.
popsthebuilder
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Technically it is those who make the Holy Spirit out to be evil.... Which I had already said and is generally synonymous with knowingly leading the lost astray intentionally which must be precluded by turning away frombthe light and life that is GOD.
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popsthebuilder
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Nothing to do with GOD making it such..... agreed. That isn't to say that it isn't for the sake of man or that man had no choice or ability to turn towards or from.
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popsthebuilder
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There are jws here surely.
Let them say they deny that Christ finished His work, then we can go from there.
Cool?
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popsthebuilder
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There are but two commands. All the law is accomplished by adherence to those two commands. It isn't as if it is old testament; the Christ commanded us to love GOD faithfully, and to love the creation of GOD as you love yourself. None of us are with excuse or justified reason to knowingly go against the inclinations of the Holy Spirit or the commands of the Christ of GOD.
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lifeisgood
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Oh, c'mon, popsthebuilder. JWs believe Jesus is Michael the Archangel.
So God didn't want to save humanity because He loves His creation, He only wanted to save us because He decided to before creation?
That doesn't sound like the God of John 3:16 to me.
lifeisgood
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For those who BELIEVE in Christ Jesus and His finished work on the Cross of Calvary.
For those who BELIEVE in Christ Jesus and His finished work on the Cross of Calvary.
For those who BELIEVE in Christ Jesus and His finished work on the Cross of Calvary.
No Believer in Christ Jesus and His finished work on the Cross of Calvary will do that.
lifeisgood
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Yes!
It was for His pleasure that we were created and saved. The verse escapes me at this moment but I know that it is in Revelation.
lifeisgood
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God did.
popsthebuilder
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lifeisgood
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Two totally and different topics.
lifeisgood
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gt demands that we have to keep ALL Jesus' commands.
Just an example, when you ask her when she gave away all that she has, she says that that command is not for her. How about the one about going all over the world preaching the gospel, nah, that one is not for her either.
Pick any command of Jesus and ask her and she will tell you that, that particular one, was not for her, but she demands vociferously, almost furiously, that you, not her, but you have to obey ALL Jesus' commands.
So what Jesus said was wrong?
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. - John 3:16 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John3:16&version=NKJV
As for the "we were created an saved for His pleasure" part, only half of that is true.
“You are worthy, O Lord, To receive glory and honor and power; For You created all things, And by Your will they exist and were created.” - Revelation 4:11 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation4:11&version=NKJV
It does not say "saved" for His pleasure. Only "created."
popsthebuilder
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I'm sorry.... What?
That presupposes that GOD made a mistake.
Is that your belief?
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lifeisgood
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For His pleasure all that was created was created. For me, that entails that He loves what He created; therefore, He saved what was created for His pleasure.
It is all for His pleasure. If we want to enter into His pleasure He provided the way to do that also.
lifeisgood
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Oh, c'mon, popsthebuilder, you must be pulling my leg.
God makes no mistakes.
So, you're saying God did not do something when He sent His Son to die on the Cross of Calvary. Got it.
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Don't you have any understanding? Read that passage better:
11"Of whom were you worried and fearful When you lied, and did not remember Me Nor give Me a thought? Was I not silent even for a long time So you do not fear Me? 12"I will declare your righteousness and your deeds, But they will not profit you. 13"When you cry out, let your collection of idols deliver you. But the wind will carry all of them up, And a breath will take them away. But he who takes refuge in Me will inherit the land And will possess My holy mountain."
That is a so-called righteousness.
lifeisgood
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Hopefully, you who demand that ALL of Jesus' commands must be obeyed and do not set the example, have included yourself in that so-called righteousness.