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JudgeRightly

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That's okay. Feel free to decide:

I believe

Well, just believing scripture doesn't make you saved, but I know what you mean, lol.

1 Cor 15:1-4

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*Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, *by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you—unless you believed in vain.*For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, *and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures, - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1Corinthians15:1-4&version=NKJV


coupled with Rom 4:25,

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*Now it was not written for his sake alone that it was imputed to him, *but also for us. It shall be imputed to us who believe in Him who raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead, *who was delivered up because of our offenses, and was raised because of our justification. - Romans 4:23-25 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans4:23-25&version=NKJV


Eph 2:8-9,

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*For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, *not of works, lest anyone should boast. - Ephesians 2:8-9 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians2:8-9&version=NKJV


Phil 3:9,

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*For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, *not of works, lest anyone should boast. - Ephesians 2:8-9 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians2:8-9&version=NKJV


Titus 3:5.

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*But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, *not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, *whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior, *that having been justified by His grace we should become heirs according to the hope of eternal life. - Titus 3:4-7 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Titus3:4-7&version=NKJV


Am I saved?

If the above scriptures describe what you believe, then yes, you are saved.
 

Tnkrbl123!

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thank you for your opinion.

Now would you care to address what I said in post #6892?

thanks.

I will not adress your questions if yu do not adress mine. Why would I bother to answer you when you NEVER answer my questions or anyone else's for that matter. All you do is pick at people like you would pick at a scab. If you would like to have an EXCHANGE of questions and answers I may oblige to do that but you do not.
I will answer answer any of your questions once you answer the one I asked you first....

Do you believe that Jesus deserves your worship?
 

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The Jews who had to do a righteous act of giving a sin offering, which included offering BLOOD, God did not like it that they would sin then give a sin offering and not really be sorry for their sins; that made the blood offering as a menstrual bloody rag offering. Not being truly sorry for the sin is what made the righteous act of sacrificing animals for their blood as a filthy rag.


Isaiah 64:6 All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away.


Our righteous act of FAITH in Jesus is a filthy rag if we do not OBEY HIM.

Scripture disagrees with your view.

Zep 3:1 Woe to her that is filthy and polluted, to the oppressing city!
Zep 3:2 She obeyed not the voice; she received not correction; she trusted not in the LORD; she drew not near to her God.
Zep 3:3 Her princes within her are roaring lions; her judges are evening wolves; they gnaw not the bones till the morrow.
Zep 3:4 Her prophets are light and treacherous persons: her priests have polluted the sanctuary, they have done violence to the law.
Zep 3:5 The just LORD is in the midst thereof; he will not do iniquity: every morning doth he bring his judgment to light, he faileth not; but the unjust knoweth no shame.
Zep 3:6 I have cut off the nations: their towers are desolate; I made their streets waste, that none passeth by: their cities are destroyed, so that there is no man, that there is none inhabitant.



Zec 3:3 Now Joshua was clothed with filthy garments, and stood before the angel.
Zec 3:4 And he answered and spake unto those that stood before him, saying, Take away the filthy garments from him. And unto him he said, Behold, I have caused thine iniquity to pass from thee, and I will clothe thee with change of raiment.
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Scripture disagrees with your view.

Zep 3:1 Woe to her that is filthy and polluted, to the oppressing city!
Zep 3:2 She obeyed not the voice; she received not correction; she trusted not in the LORD; she drew not near to her God.
Zep 3:3 Her princes within her are roaring lions; her judges are evening wolves; they gnaw not the bones till the morrow.
Zep 3:4 Her prophets are light and treacherous persons: her priests have polluted the sanctuary, they have done violence to the law.
Zep 3:5 The just LORD is in the midst thereof; he will not do iniquity: every morning doth he bring his judgment to light, he faileth not; but the unjust knoweth no shame.
Zep 3:6 I have cut off the nations: their towers are desolate; I made their streets waste, that none passeth by: their cities are destroyed, so that there is no man, that there is none inhabitant.

LA

Just because you found more scriptures with the word 'filthy' in it does not mean you are right.

You said filthy is about dirty clothes!

Filthy is about NOT OBEYING.
 

JudgeRightly

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that is your opinion.

You were trying to justify your sinful faith.

You were questioning Jesus' clear and simple message. Jesus' "love your enemy" message is self explanatory.

JR,

What you are saying is you are trying to prove your enemy is not right.

So you insist on your views only.
I'll take that as a no on the starting over and having iron sharpen iron.

I want to state for the record that Meshak is not even willing to start anew with someone she (they?) opposes, to turn over a new leaf and discuss theology with a clear mind, not clouded by opinions of her opponents.

Meshak, I'm willing to set aside our differences and talk scripture with you, but I can't do that if you don't reciprocate. I am offering you an olive branch. Either take it or leave it.
 

Tnkrbl123!

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You're not talking to an individual there. You're arguing with at least 2 Jehovah's Witnesses who spend most of their time preaching on TOL as they try to earn salvation. And they listen to no one.

Oh ya haha I forgot about that for a moment. He/she/it/they never have anything useful to say whatsoever I am realizing that once again. Whatever happened to your meshak cult thread, it was a big hit because it was sooooo true
 

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I will not adress your questions if yu do not adress mine. Why would I bother to answer you when you NEVER answer my questions or anyone else's for that matter. All you do is pick at people like you would pick at a scab. If you would like to have an EXCHANGE of questions and answers I may oblige to do that but you do not.
I will answer answer any of your questions once you answer the one I asked you first....

Do you believe that Jesus deserves your worship?

I did not answer because it is not honest question.

You are playing a word game just like word "deity".
 

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You weren't paying attention to what I said afterwards, were you? Please read the entire post again. I said one can understand scripture (and know truth) if we know the context of what's being said.
 

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Just because you found more scriptures with the word 'filthy' in it does not mean you are right.

You said filthy is about dirty clothes!

Filthy is about NOT OBEYING.


Zec 3:3 Now Joshua was clothed with filthy garments, and stood before the angel.
Zec 3:4 And he answered and spake unto those that stood before him, saying, Take away the filthy garments from him. And unto him he said, Behold, I have caused thine iniquity to pass from thee, and I will clothe thee with change of raiment.

LA
 

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No i think you dont understand. I am not upset at all. what YOU need to understand is that i was giving a Biblical example . You are lost as to what is going on sorry about that

I am not lost to anything.

You are a false judge.

Meshak wants to speak about obeying and does not want to be corrected---just like you do not want to be.
 

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Oh ya haha I forgot about that for a moment. He/she/it/they never have anything useful to say whatsoever I am realizing that once again. Whatever happened to your meshak cult thread, it was a big hit because it was sooooo true

wow, this is what happens when you try to please men, not God.

Your comments are so worldly, not spiritual.
 

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Zec 3:3 Now Joshua was clothed with filthy garments, and stood before the angel.
Zec 3:4 And he answered and spake unto those that stood before him, saying, Take away the filthy garments from him. And unto him he said, Behold, I have caused thine iniquity to pass from thee, and I will clothe thee with change of raiment.

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It is about OBEYING.

Not about dirty clothes.
 

Tnkrbl123!

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I am not lost to anything.

You are a false judge.

Meshak wants to speak about obeying and does not want to be corrected---just like you do not want to be.

Go away child you have no clue about what is going on lol. You are very lost to the conversation and are just looking to pick a fight because you feel like a drama filled day. If that is what you are interested in then go do it somewhere else because I have never talked to you in a thread before, you stuck your nose in and the very first corespondance you have ever had with me is to picking at me like you would pick at a scab. Go pick scabs somehwere else because that is all you are doing. I do not know you, you do not know me and if the very first thing you are going to say to me is to try to try to stir up something I am not interested in conversing with you. I am here to talk about the Bible, and clearly you do not understand that the Bible is good to use for examples because lots of it is historical fact and good to use for reproof and correction... that is what I was doing by using Peter as an example of WHAT NOT TO DO. If you cannot understad that simple concept then we cannot share in an intellectual conversation and I am not interested. Have a wonderful evening talking to someone else :)
 

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I don't understand. What does that mean?

I was being facetious, taking your words literally, and ignoring your intended meaning. Don't worry about it. :)

It is what I believe. But how can I be saved if all I do is indeed "just believe it"?

According to the others, you can't be, and according to them, the second man on the cross next to Jesus never went to heaven, making Jesus a liar, because the man never had any works to go along with his faith.
 
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