The Trinity

[God's Truth]

Did I judge him? NOPE! I only repeated the story that was told in the gospel... a historical biblical FACT. Repeating facts is not judging them. Did you not know that?

Peter was forgiven but he serves as an EXAMPLE of what NOT TO DO. We are made aware of his mistakes so we DO NOT REPEAT them. We can still be forgiven but we should sin and deny Jesus in the first place!

I hope you understand that now it might help you in future posts.

I was giving meshak that example because I asked her is Jesus was worthy of her worship and she refused to asnwer with a form of denial. But if you were involved in the conversation you would have know that

I have known Meshak now for a long time I know what she believes.

You are upset with me trying to help you understand something, just as you are trying to help Meshak.

You got upset with me, just like Meshak got upset with you.

 

[musterion]

YOu call everybody else who isn't you to have TRASH COMMENTS except you are hateful and SPITEFUL and that is NOT keeping Jesus commandments. You obviously deny (because you JUST DID) that Jesus deserves your worahip yet you walk around with a self-righteous attitude pretending that you follow Jesus commandments. Jesus COMMANDS that you LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR yet you DON'T becuse you do not know what love is because you do not know the ONE who IS LOVE HIMSELF - JESUS CHRIST.

You claim you love Jesus but why one earth would you strive to be like someone who is NOT GOD tat is IDOLATRY do not place anyone above God yet you talk about Jesus more than you do GOD (which would be fine is you believed Jesus IS God, but you do not)which is idolatrous behavior.

You pretend to love Jesus and keep His commands, yet you DO NOT OBEY HIM. BEcause everytime you call omeone "trash" you are NOT LOVING YOUR NEIGHBOR AS CHRIST LOVED YOU! Instead of going around practising what you preach you go around picking at people like you would a SCAB!

You're not talking to an individual there. You're arguing with at least 2 Jehovah's Witnesses who spend most of their time preaching on TOL as they try to earn salvation. And they listen to no one.

 

[God's Truth]

I just do not like people judging the apostles.

God says not to do that.

Peter acted out of fear.

We can imagine getting tortured and killed slowly and still standing strong, but it is good to know that we can have forgiveness if we don't do it the first couple of times.

 

[musterion]

Oh look. As soon as I post Watchtower doctrine, the Meshaks disappear.

 

[God's Truth]

Oh look. As soon as I post Watchtower doctrine, the Meshaks disappear.

Who are you to judge Meshak? You have your own ugliness about you. Jesus says you will be judged the same way you judge. You need to study that more.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Who are you to judge Meshak? You have your own ugliness about you. Jesus says you will be judged the same way you judge. You need to study that more.

He's a Christian (I think). Jesus (and Paul, for that matter) tells us (His people) to judge and judge rightly. (John 7:24, 1 Corinthians 6:1-6)

 

[musterion]

He's a Christian (I think).

That's okay. Feel free to decide:

I believe 1 Cor 15:1-4 coupled with Rom 4:25, Eph 2:8-9, Phil 3:9, Titus 3:5.

Am I saved?

 

[God's Truth]

He's a Christian (I think). Jesus (and Paul, for that matter) tells us (His people) to judge and judge rightly. (John 7:24, 1 Corinthians 6:1-6)

You do not judge 'rightly'.

 

[meshak]

He's a Christian (I think). Jesus (and Paul, for that matter) tells us (His people) to judge and judge rightly. (John 7:24, 1 Corinthians 6:1-6)

what makes you think you are judging rightly?

 

[JudgeRightly]

How in the world would you ever get that? You didn't read anything that I said. You just saw the scripture about the filthy rags.

Actually, that's not what caught my attention. It was this:

Only demons would go against someone preaching obedience.

Jesus saves all on his own, and he chooses whom he saves.

He tells us who he saves and he tells us how to be saved.

You propane the blood of Christ when you have faith without obedience.

Think about the filthy rag scripture.

The Jews who had to do a righteous act of giving a sin offering, which included offering BLOOD, God did not like it that they would sin then give a sin offering and not really be sorry for their sins; that made the blood offering as a menstrual bloody rag offering. Not being truly sorry for the sin is what made the righteous act of sacrificing animals for their blood as a filthy rag.


Isaiah 64:6 All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away.


Your righteous act of FAITH in Jesus is a filthy rag if you do not OBEY HIM.

Let me clarify something for you:

There are prooftexts and problem texts for both sides of the discussion of "Faith only vs works only vs faith and works."

All three positions have strong verses that support them. But if you try to put them together, then they appear to contradict. Now, you and I both know that the Bible DOES NOT contradict itself. So there must be a way to sort this out, would you agree?

You could go through hundreds of books written about each individual method of salvation, and spend the rest of your life doing it too, and never figure out how they all fit together. Now, we all know that context is important to understanding passages of (confusing) scripture. So why don't we look at the context of each of the verses that support your side, and see how they compare with your theology.

 

[JudgeRightly]

You do not judge 'rightly'.

what makes you think you are judging rightly?

Because I am able (as you should be able) to rightly divide the word of truth.

 

[God's Truth]

Actually, that's not what caught my attention. It was this:



Let me clarify something for you:

There are prooftexts and problem texts for both sides of the discussion of "Faith only vs works only vs faith and works."

All three positions have strong verses that support them. But if you try to put them together, then they appear to contradict. Now, you and I both know that the Bible DOES NOT contradict itself. So there must be a way to sort this out, would you agree?

You could go through hundreds of books written about each individual method of salvation, and spend the rest of your life doing it too, and never figure out how they all fit together. Now, we all know that context is important to understanding passages of (confusing) scripture. So why don't we look at the context of each of the verses that support your side, and see how they compare with your theology.

You are wrong. Jesus reveals the Truth to those who obey him.

There is a thread on this. Go check it out and debate me there.

 

[Lazy afternoon]

That's okay. Feel free to decide:

I believe 1 Cor 15:1-4 coupled with Rom 4:25, Eph 2:8-9, Phil 3:9, Titus 3:5.

Am I saved?

Has the Lord appeared to you as He did to Paul?
LA

 

[meshak]

YOu call everybody else who isn't you to have TRASH COMMENTS except you are hateful and SPITEFUL and that is NOT keeping Jesus commandments. You obviously deny (because you JUST DID) that Jesus deserves your worahip yet you walk around with a self-righteous attitude pretending that you follow Jesus commandments. Jesus COMMANDS that you LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR yet you DON'T becuse you do not know what love is because you do not know the ONE who IS LOVE HIMSELF - JESUS CHRIST.

You claim you love Jesus but why one earth would you strive to be like someone who is NOT GOD tat is IDOLATRY do not place anyone above God yet you talk about Jesus more than you do GOD (which would be fine is you believed Jesus IS God, but you do not)which is idolatrous behavior.

You pretend to love Jesus and keep His commands, yet you DO NOT OBEY HIM. BEcause everytime you call omeone "trash" you are NOT LOVING YOUR NEIGHBOR AS CHRIST LOVED YOU! Instead of

thank you for your opinion.

Now would you care to address what I said in post #6892?

thanks.

 

[God's Truth]

Because I am able (as you should be able) to rightly divide the word of truth.

You do not rightly divide.

 

[JudgeRightly]

You are wrong. Jesus reveals the Truth to those who obey him.

There is a thread on this. Go check it out and debate me there.

Truth is revealed in Scripture, it is up to us to find out what it is.

 

[JudgeRightly]

You do not rightly divide.

I could say the same of you, but that wouldn't get us anywhere. Care to respond to my above post about context of scriptures?

 

[meshak]

Because I am able (as you should be able) to rightly divide the word of truth.

It seems we are only insisting we are the right ones and our enemy is not.

It is childish comment.

 

[meshak]

I could say the same of you, but that wouldn't get us anywhere. Care to respond to my above post about context of scriptures?

I could say the same thing to you too.

 

[JudgeRightly]

It seems we are only insisting we are the right ones and our enemy is not.

It is childish comment.

Do you agree that context can tell us a lot about what a passage is saying in scripture?