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JudgeRightly

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You just described how God will judge non-believers. You are describing Him as cruel god who punishes non-believers torture for eternity.
You did not read what I said above. Those who reject God get to spend all of eternity separated from Him. But because they did not repent, they would continue to harm themselves and others (if they were able to). So God, Out of mercy and love, lets them live separated from Him, and I'd even go so far as to say that they would not be able to interact with others, for all eternity. The only person they can harm is themselves. God is not the one who would harm them. I clearly stated that God is not a sadist. The Lake of Fire will only contain Hell, Death, and the souls of those who rejected God. No one will be punishing anyone, but that does not mean that there won't be pain, the pain of separation.

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They will perish as Jesus says. I just showed you what Jesus said: "for God so love the world..."
Again, "perish" does not mean annihilation. Souls cannot be destroyed or obliterated. So again, what would you have God do after the Great White Throne judgement to the souls of those who reject Him?

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jamie

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So God, Out of mercy and love, lets them live separated from Him...

Actually, eternal life is a gift from God, not something humans have innately.

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Eternal life is given through Jesus Christ ... only.

Only.

At the end of the Last Day those not in Christ will die, again.
 

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I don't demand God what to do. get real, friend.
You think that God is cruel for allowing people to live apart from him, yet that is exactly what He will do. So what do you think He should do, instead of that? You seem to know better than God on this topic, so I'm all ears!

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drbrumley

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2 Thessalonians 1:7-9

And to you who are troubled, rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels,8*In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9*Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of His power;

Meshak, what does everlasting mean?
 

jamie

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Again, "perish" does not mean annihilation. Souls cannot be destroyed or obliterated. So again, what would you have God do after the Great White Throne judgement to the souls of those who reject Him?

When a person dies they no longer live.

Jesus said, "And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." (Matthew 10:28)

The word "destroy" means to perish.
 

meshak

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2 Thessalonians 1:7-9

And to you who are troubled, rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels,8*In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9*Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of His power;

Meshak, what does everlasting mean?

what do you think it is?

You give yours first then I will mine.
 

meshak

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When a person dies they no longer live.

Jesus said, "And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." (Matthew 10:28)

The word "destroy" means to perish.


excellent:)
 

drbrumley

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When a person dies they no longer live.

Jesus said, "And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." (Matthew 10:28)

The word "destroy" means to perish.

Your soul and your body are different things.. Come on people, this isn't rocket science.
 
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