The Trinity

[jamie]

Your soul and your body are different things.. Come on people, this isn't rocket science.

Exactly, a soul is comprised of a body and a spirit. Death is separation of body and spirit.

A body can be alive or dead, so a soul can be alive or dead.

 

[meshak]

Honestly, I am bewildered by that question. The soul will live forever in either Heaven or Hell. The soul will never die. Are you not calling that cruelty?

Soul will never die?

reference?

 

[jamie]

Honestly, I am bewildered by that question. The soul will live forever in either Heaven or Hell. The soul will never die. Are you not calling that cruelty?

Jesus said, "And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." (Matthew 10:28)

 

[meshak]

9*Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of His power;

You see db, destruction does not last. It is end, perish.

 

[JudgeRightly]

You see db, destruction does not last. It is end, perish.

Meshak, what does the phrase "everlasting destruction" mean?

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[keypurr]

When a person dies they no longer live.

Jesus said, "And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." (Matthew 10:28)

The word "destroy" means to perish.

Agree


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[jamie]

Then the serpent said to the woman, "You will not surely die." (Genesis 3:4)

 

[keypurr]

Seems to me we are getting away from the OP subject matter.


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[meshak]

Meshak, what does the phrase "everlasting destruction" mean?

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where does it say everlasting destruction?

 

[meshak]

Seems to me we are getting away from the OP subject matter.


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this is another misrepresentation of gospel and God.

 

[JudgeRightly]

where does it say everlasting destruction?

Here

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9

And to you who are troubled, rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels,8*In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9*Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of His power;

Meshak, what does everlasting mean?

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[meshak]

Then the serpent said to the woman, "You will not surely die." (Genesis 3:4)

Yes, those neverending torture believers saying non-believer don't die and get tortured forever.

 

[meshak]

Here



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Ok, that does not harmonize with Jesus' word.

I take Jesus' word.

so there.

 

[drbrumley]

Unbelievable!

 

[drbrumley]

Ok, that does not harmonize with Jesus' word.

I take Jesus' word.

so there.

So here we are again. Paul is a dolt who doesn't teach what Jesus teached. When in fact it is Jesus who taught him.

Peter even said in His epistle,

2 Peter 3:15-17New King James Version (NKJV)
15*and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, 16*as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.

 

[God's Truth]

Then the serpent said to the woman, "You will not surely die." (Genesis 3:4)

We are flesh and spirit.

The spirit does not die a literal death.

 

[meshak]

Unbelievable!

So you just dismiss what Jesus says because Paul says differently?

 

[drbrumley]

So you just dismiss what Jesus says because Paul says differently?

No, I dont dismiss Jesus word on the matter. Especially when Paul AGREES with Jesus.

 

[God's Truth]

Jesus said, "And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." (Matthew 10:28)

That scripture proves the spirit does not die.

 

[drbrumley]

So you just dismiss what Jesus says because Paul says differently?

There has to be an English barrier here as to why you would say such a thing