The Trinity

[JudgeRightly]

Aramaic was the language he spoke. My understanding is that most originals were Aramaic or Hebrew. Not being an expert I would say go to the Eastern Church and see why they make that claim.

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So, I did some Googling, and it appears that I was only partially correct in my statement above. Aramaic was the common language in Israel during Jesus' time, though Greek was still the language of scholarship before, during, and after His time.
See http://www.biblica.com/bible/bible-faqs/in-what-language-was-the-bible-first-written/

However, my statement remains that the New Testament was originally written in Greek, with only small portions written in Aramaic.

Why is there a second resurrection then?

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Second resurrection? Some context would be appreciated.

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[JudgeRightly]

So you believe non-believers will be sent to hell and receive emotional pain for eternity.

Is it right?

"Receive" is the wrong word... "Experience" is probably the best term to use, but otherwise, that is correct, however, the pain comes from themselves, not from God.

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[meshak]

"Receive" is the wrong word... "Experience" is probably the best term to use, but otherwise, that is correct, however, the pain comes from themselves, not from God.

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there is no difference between physical pain and emotional pain.

Torturing emotionally for eternity is cruel, the same as physically. God is Just, not cruel.

Jesus says "for God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life."

Non-believers will perish, not tortured for eternity.

 

[Bright Raven]

there is no difference between physical pain and emotional pain.

Torturing emotionally for eternity is cruel, the same as physically. God is Just, not cruel.

Jesus says "for God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life."

Non-believers will perish, not tortured for eternity.

You are in error. Nonbelievers will not perish. See below.

Revelation 20:12-15 King James Version (KJV)

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

 

[JudgeRightly]

there is no difference between physical pain and emotional pain.

Incorrect. See (and hear) kgov.com/pain

Torturing emotionally for eternity is cruel, the same as physically. God is Just, not cruel.

Jesus says "for God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life."

Non-believers will perish, not tortured for eternity.

This is all well and good, until you consider the fact that God made us as eternal beings. He put eternity into our hearts (Eccl. 3:11). Not just believers, but all men will exist for eternity either with God, or separated from Him forever.

Nowhere in the Bible does it teach that the soul can be destroyed. We see a few examples of the body being able to be broken down and eventually return to whence it came, but the soul was made by God to be eternal.
See https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don_stewart/don_stewart_102.cfm

 

[JudgeRightly]

You are in error. Nonbelievers will not perish. See below.

Revelation 20:12-15 King James Version (KJV)

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Nailed it!

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[meshak]

Not just believers, but all men will exist for eternity either with God, or separated from Him forever.

Separation from God is perishing and hell, brother. Yes, non believer will eternally separated from God.

 

[meshak]

You are in error. Nonbelievers will not perish. See below.

Revelation 20:12-15 King James Version (KJV)

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

I will take where Jesus says "for God so loved world...." This is contextual with Jesus' word.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Separation from God is perishing and hell, brother. Yes, non believer will eternally separated from God.

Meshak, I strongly recommend you listen to kgov.com/hell when you get the chance. It covers more than I am able to remember about the topic, and addresses your rejection of what I said about emotional pain in the Lake of Fire.

Also, you may want to consider listening to these programs, which may contain discussion about Hell not discussed in the above link.

http://kgov.com/bel/20030708
http://kgov.com/bel/20030710
http://kgov.com/bel/20030909

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[Bright Raven]

I will take where Jesus says "for God so loved world...." This is contextual with Jesus' word.

I would not take God's judgement so lightly if I were you.

 

[meshak]

Meshak, I strongly recommend you listen to kgov.com/hell when you get the chance. It covers more than I am able to remember about the topic, and addresses your rejection of what I said about emotional pain in the Lake of Fire.

Also, you may want to consider listening to these programs, which may contain discussion about Hell not discussed in the above link.

http://kgov.com/bel/20030708
http://kgov.com/bel/20030710
http://kgov.com/bel/20030909

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No thanks. I have Jesus' word.

 

[meshak]

I would not take God's judgement so lightly if I were you.

I know God is love, not cruel God that most of you making it out to be.

God is Just, not Cruel.

 

[JudgeRightly]

No thanks. I have Jesus' word.

The Bible says that God appointed teachers to teach His word. I think that this falls under that qualification...

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[meshak]

The Bible says that God appointed teachers to teach His word. I think that this falls under that qualification...

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Jesus says "don't let anyone call you a teacher because He is the Teacher".

 

[Bright Raven]

I know God is love, not cruel God that most of you making it out to be.

God is Just, not Cruel.

God is just and must deal with unconfessed sin

 

[JudgeRightly]

I know God is love, not cruel God that most of you making it out to be.

God is Just, not Cruel.

He is Just, but He is not Cruel. He will not force someone to live with Him for eternity if they don't want to.

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[meshak]

God is just and must deal with unconfessed sin

Not cruelly.

 

[meshak]

He is Just, but He is not Cruel. He will not force someone to live with Him for eternity if they don't want to.

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You just described how God will judge non-believers. You are describing Him as cruel god who punishes non-believers torture for eternity.

 

[jamie]

Death and Hell will be cast into the Lake of Fire after the Great White Throne Judgment, along with those who are not found in the Lamb's Book of Life.

Currently, those who die are sent straight to Hell, which is where they are temporarily held until the GWT judgement.

Jesus spent time in hell (Acts 2:27 KJV)

Humans are not immortal.

 

[drbrumley]

You just described how God will judge non-believers. You are describing Him as cruel god who punishes non-believers torture for eternity.

If you go to Hell, you’ll take your memory with you. Memory will sting like a hornet in Hell. You will remember the prayers of your mother, every message where the speaker implored you to give your life to Christ, every opportunity you had to be saved, and every time you stubbornly said no to the Lord Jesus Christ.