Rosenritter
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This is gold!! :chuckle: I show a clear example how your understanding is wrong and your reply back is basically "interesting, but I'm going to ignore it". You can't just dismiss this point and try and excuse yourself by saying its nit relevant, it's entirely relevant.
Your whole argument hinges on the fact that you believe Moses litreally saw God because it says face-to-face, I objected to this stating the term face-to-face doesn't have to be a litreal seeing of God, I showed you clear undeniable proof and you outright rejected it.
No, it is irrelevant because you skewed the context:
Deu 5:4
(4) The LORD talked with you face to face in the mount out of the midst of the fire,
Is clearly different than this:
Exo 33:11
(11) And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle.
"Face to face out of the midst of fire" is a ton different than "face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend."
Seriously, is that what you want to divert the argument to now? Why do you suppose that the writer of Exodus clarified what HE meant by "face to face" with "as a man speaketh unto his friend?" When friends speak to each other (before the days of Skype and cell phones) it meant they literally sat down and say each other with their eyes and with their faces. The author couldn't have made it more literal.
Again, do you know the difference between "face to face, out of the midst of fire" and "face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend?"