New Low From Trump

1Mind1Spirit

Literal lunatic
You can poll on that point too, but I don't see a lot of people sitting this one out. The ratings for the first debate tell you that the nation is interested in this contest.

At any rate, they looked at the numbers, called it and got it right. You don't end up with that kind of accuracy accidentally. Nothing is infallible, but the odds are strongly in their favor, looking at the track record here.

You're just spinning your wheels here.

You totally ignored and failed to understand what happens to all those old factors when new ones are introduced.

Frankly my friend they go out the window.

Do you even use your brain.



You should check out the link and the science. Then we won't have to have a conversation about observable rotation sans time stop photography.

That's all you've got?

Really?

No wonder you didn't join in the thread when Zappa, PPS, and I were on talking about it.


What is that supposed to mean? Again, it's a process. That's what it takes. No polling of our electorate supports the things you want to see done. You couldn't make the numbers to call the convention. Just not happening. Women and minorities have a political voice and vote and you couldn't repeal suffrage or the Civil Rights act even if you managed to keep them all quiet on the point.


The people are gun toting, male landowners.




What infringements? I'm curious about what you see as an infringement. It didn't happen when the Democrats had the numbers to pass anything they could unify on, which right there should tell you about the worry factor on the issue.

You do realize the second amendment states that all citizens have the right to keep and bear arms, don'tcha?



It really isn't. If you like I can produce quotes, writings from the period that illustrate it.


Some were, like Jefferson. But I don't recall saying that they were in the first place and I'm not sure why you bring it up.

You brought it up.

It's apparent that the founders weren't installing a particular religion, weren't infusing Christianity into the fabric of motto and creed.

The hell they weren't.....

George Washington firmly stated that we all have the right to serve the Father of Jesus Christ to the dictates of our own conscience.

Thomas Jefferson wrote his own interpretation of the new testament.




What's the relevance of that question?

1920 is when the amendment that allowed women to vote was passed.

What's interesting is that the suffrage movement began about the same time that the religious cults sprang up.




It really isn't.

When you learn to stop parroting socialistic liberalism and think for yourself you wont even try to convince yourself of that.




Well that's one way to never change your mind about anything.


Reminds me of the old, "And Judas went out and hanged himself...go thou and do likewise." Or, context is important. So is the original tongue.


You have no business even uttering the word context.





Only if you close your eyes tightly, which is always an option.

Liberals squander, Conservatives preserve.
 

1Mind1Spirit

Literal lunatic
Are you trying to say that judging a person by their words and actions is being a "respecter of persons"?

Yep.

Where did you get your tape measure?


Of course not. He instructs us not to be in debt. I have no confidence, however, that Trump is more likely than any of the other candidates to balance the budget. He throws out tax cuts as well as projects that require spending seemingly as they occur to him in the heat of the moment. There's no indication that he has thought through how any of his ideas balance out financially.

Key word in that is seemingly.

We know nobody else has got it done, so why would you not give a business man who does not need the job a chance?

Or is it that he just does not measure up to your standard of Holiness?


At the expense of voting in Trump, yes. Our God repeatedly demonstrates that He does not care for His people being practical at the cost of giving up righteousness.

In Daniel it says that God sets up the basest men over the kingdoms of men.

Look up base, it means vile and morally corrupt.

If He does it, why would he be mad at you for doing it?
 

1Mind1Spirit

Literal lunatic
Thanks. You're entitled to be wrong. :)

You're welcome and entitled to believe every wind of doctrine that blows by.


Show me a single signer who arrived to sign without the equal input of one of your not-people.

Equal in that the wife of the signer was under her husband and represented by him.

The amount of influence each wife may or may not have had is undetermined.
 

annabenedetti

like marbles on glass
Your welcome and entitled to believe every wind of doctrine that blows by.

True. It's not a subject that interests me, so I'll leave it at that.

Equal in that the wife of the signer was under her husband and represented by him.

The amount of influence each wife may or may not have had is undetermined.

I meant biological influence.

However you may wish things were... they aren't anymore. Women aren't chattel.
 

Town Heretic

Out of Order
Hall of Fame
You're just spinning your wheels here.
Well, it's hard to get traction with some people.

You totally ignored and failed to understand what happens to all those old factors when new ones are introduced.
No, I'm sure you would have said something like that before they nailed the 08 election cycle. You'd have been wrong then too. Or, while Truman will sometimes win, we're a lot better at polling these days and my source remains objectively, demonstrably ahead of the curve.

Ignore it if you like. Think the earth is flat if it suits you. I'm simply telling you something true.

Frankly my friend they go out the window.
Nothing is foolproof, but they mostly don't. An examination of track records will tell you that.

Do you even use your brain.
:plain: Sorry, going by the avatar I assumed you were out of high school. But reconfiguring by rhetoric, I can see my mistake. Okay, it's fun time then. Let's.

That's all you've got?
Science? Sure. There's more, but when someone starts doubting the rotation of the earth I tend to simplify and gently point them in a direction. Sometimes I make a balloon animal for them and a snack.

You're arching an eyebrow, aren't you.

No wonder you didn't join in the thread when Zappa, PPS, and I were on talking about it.
I got here when I got here. Nothing in what I've read from you has me pouring over your old posts.

The people are gun toting, male landowners.
You left out white. The empowered people were. They aren't alone any longer and haven't been for a very long time, because as flawed as the founders were, they put into play essential principles of law that could self-correct mistakes and omissions and founded something remarkable, a state of peaceful, ongoing revolution and political evolution.

Heck of a thing.

You do realize the second amendment states that all citizens have the right to keep and bear arms, don'tcha?
I not only realize it, I have guns. And no one has taken them away. If someone took yours I'm betting it had to do with a hearing of one sort or another. I'm not going to speculate on its nature.

You brought it up.
Well, no. You said, out of the blue:
The founding Fathers were not Deists.
Which I thought was a bit odd, given I hadn't said they were, but I obliged you by noting some were and some (most) weren't.

The hell they weren't.....
Show me one place in the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence that references Christ. I'll wait while that never happens. And it would have been easy to do.

George Washington firmly stated that we all have the right to serve the Father of Jesus Christ to the dictates of our own conscience.
I'm sure he did.

Thomas Jefferson wrote his own interpretation of the new testament.
Right. One that divorced it from divinity, sans miracles.

Neither of those two statements impacts or rebuts my position though. I'd already said some (most, actually) were Christian. Just as I've noted they at no point created a theocracy. They came from a Europe that had prescribed religion (and proscribed the exercise of conscience for many) and fought wars to the tune of losing a third of its population over religious differences. They weren't going to make that same mistake here and they didn't.

1920 is when the amendment that allowed women to vote was passed.
I know. How is that relevant?

What's interesting is that the suffrage movement began about the same time that the religious cults sprang up.
I see. By which I mean I'm seeing you clearer by the second.

When you learn to stop parroting socialistic liberalism and think for yourself you wont even try to convince yourself of that.
When you learn how to argue instead of declare you might be fun to talk to...maybe. I'm game for argument, but you're locked into a declaration in lieu. Repetition isn't proof, you know.

You have no business even uttering the word context.
Well, at least you can spell it.

Liberals squander, Conservatives preserve.
Did you say that as you typed it? Make a big, vibrato rich tone to it and all? Because outside of theatrical value it's stereotypical nonsense.
 

Town Heretic

Out of Order
Hall of Fame
I was talking to PJ about that. He thought it was convenient. I think that only a fool goes after someone with his power and temperament without proof and that recording gave them a leg to stand on. I'd expect that if he did it thirty some odd years ago and as recently as 2005 (the time frame for the first and second women coming forward) that there should be a pretty substantial pattern and number of women, even factoring out the ones who went with it for a chance of personal gain.

EDIT: and then I saw this on Yahoo News:

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Separately on Wednesday, The Palm Beach Post in Florida reported that Mindy McGillivray, 36, told the newspaper that Trump groped her at his Mar-a-Lago estate 13 years ago. People magazine reporter Natasha Stoynoff also posted a story about a 2005 incident at Mar-a-Lago where, she wrote, Trump "was pushing me against the wall, and forcing his tongue down my throat." The Trump campaign said there was no "merit or veracity" to either story.​
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Crucible

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I think it's amazing that a billionaire runs for president, and people get all up in arms when some from way in the past, who decide until now, to make defaming allegations :plain:

No doubt, it's the same people who didn't see him as either racist or sexist until the media brainwashed them when he began running for president :rolleyes:

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Gurucam

Well-known member
:nono: A felony is a purely legal distinction. When you use it, that's the context.

In a democratic country, a transgression of the law of one's country or international law is the only bases for one person to conclude a generalized acceptable and fair moral judgment on another person.

This is the agreement, to which, people in a democratic country subscribe.

Beyond the above there is absolute freedom, liberty and justification. This means that all other moral judgments are strictly unfair, bias, off the charts, not acceptable and Satanic.

The above position is also supported by:

Romans: 14 King James Version (KJV)
14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.


The caption, 'I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus' confirms that the above is a literal, untouched, 'stand on its own' declaration about morality, from the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth to Paul.

According to the above Christian declaration/revelation, it is only by democratic collective choice of a people can laws of morality be binding on everyone. This can be done, only through the formal laws of their land.

The above position is also supported by:

'There is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so.'
. . . William Shakespeare


The above is also supported by Trump who said, if you (as a people) do not like me legally not paying taxes, then change the law. It is absolutely not correct and fair to pass negative moral judgment on Trump when he is operating within the laws of the land.

Lots of people in the U.S.A need to reach 'spiritual/Christian maturity' very quickly or they will be 'out of here'.

Old Testament people are turning the U.S.A. into a foolish 'Banana Republic'.

This is most likely because of an uninformed immigration policy. They have allowed too many O.T. (Old Testament) people into their land. These O.T. people include Jews, Catholics and traditional Christians. The billion strong traditional Christians are not authentic Christians. They are misguided people. They are O.T./Mosaic people erroneously and foolishly believing that they are N.T./Christian people.

Trump call for a wall is a symbolic call for a re-look at the failed immigration policy of the U.S.A. The idea is very insightful. Trump is Gifted. He can restore the lost Christian standard to the U.S.A.

People of the U.S.A. need to wake-up to the deep wisdom of Trump's intuitions. If countries do not get in line with Christianity soon, they will perish. Clinton is the Old and she must be done away-with.
 
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Catholic Crusader

Kyrie Eleison
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MarcATL

New member
Conservative Christians are still clinging and making excuses for Trump's sexual predatory behavior based on the rationale that Hillary is even worse.

By becoming "enablers" they are now effectively arguing that "the ends justify the means" - something that has absolutely no basis in Scripture!

How can one vote for a president whom they would not trust to be alone in a room with their wife or daughter!
Partisanship over righteousness.

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ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
town stamps his foot angrily and declares:
:nono: A felony is a purely legal distinction.


the word "felony" is a word in the english language that has a long history and a variety of definitions

yours isn't the only one

and your belief that yours is the best (and thus the only) is nothing more than an opinion, rooted in your personal bias


which is kinda cute :)
 
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