Its safer to own a gun?

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exminister

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That's not what I meant at all. I was trying to point out the meaning of that verse.

But then you went on to explain that is how you look at it. So thank you for the clarification. Now I see why you and some others here feel a need to fend for yourselves. God will help you in the next life but don't count on it in this one. Buy a gun, protect yourselves, be fearful in this life, but don't worry for the next.

Your clarifying statements I highlighted in bold.

God is not "on my side," I am on His.


Do I believe that God will supernaturally intervene when I'm in trouble? No, and for good reason.

Do I think that God does not support what I do? If what I do is evil or sinful, then of course not; but if what I do is good, then I am in His will. If God wanted to, could He intervene in this world? Sure. But He doesn't. God has done that enough, enough to show that miracles signs and wonders produce unbelief, and that's counterproductive to what He is trying to accomplish.

Can the Lord answer prayer? Does He do it all the time? No, and even when He does, it may be in a way that seems odd at the time, but later it makes sense.

"Lord, give me the power to move this mountain," will probably go unanswered, but "Lord, give me the strength and courage to deal with this thorn in my side," now that's more likely to be answered, and in a powerful way.

And lest I should be exalted above measure by the abundance of the revelations, a thorn in the flesh was given to me, a messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I be exalted above measure.Concerning this thing I pleaded with the Lord three times that it might depart from me.And He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in needs, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ’s sake. For when I am weak, then I am strong. - 2 Corinthians 12:7-10 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2Corinthians12:7-10&version=NKJV
 

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His intention was to kill Zimmerman.
It's certainly a possibility, considering the wounds on Zimmerman's head.... Fair enough.

If true, it would have been attempted murder, and not assault, and because the punishment for failing to commit a crime should be the same as if the person had succeeded, the punishment should be the death penalty, for attempted murder.

The problem with your analysis is that pot makes people passive, not aggressive.

See, If that were the case, then Trayvon Martin most likely wouldn't have attacked Mr. Zimmerman, as he had smoked pot just a few hours prior to the incident. Here is a list of articles and studies that show that pot was most likely the main reason behind Trayvon's actions that day:

"Bao said Friday that the amount of THC, the active ingredient of marijuana, found in Martin’s body could have affected Martin physically or mentally. Last November, the doctor said the THC would not have had any impact on Martin." - LA Times

""We know the level of THC in his body is enough to cause some level of impairment," Don West, one of Mr Zimmerman's lawyers, argued before the judge's ruling.

Dr Shiping Bao, the medical examiner who carried out Trayvon's autopsy, told the court last week that he had changed his mind about the drug's potential impact, having initially said it was too small an amount to be significant. "Marijuana could have no effect or some effect," he said." - Telegraph

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-finds-international-study.html#ixzz44tg6bxdt

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/hea...sible-for-quarter-of-new-psychosis-cases.html

http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v20/n6/full/mp201536a.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ans-reveal-cannabis-smokers-live-reality.html

http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2014/11/05/1415297111

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-sci-sn-regular-marijuana-shrinks-brain-20141110-story.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...y-demolishes-claims-smoking-pot-harmless.html
^^^^ See VVVV
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/add.12703/full

http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(14)70307-4/abstract

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...n-those-who-never-use/?utm_term=.7eb3db5c38d9

http://m.pnas.org/content/109/40/E2657.abstract?sid=da120000-60e6-464c-8a80-5cc4de3c20f6

http://www.ibtimes.com/pot-psychosi...symptoms-found-teens-dutch-study-finds-970684

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15787208/

We do not have 2 or 3 witnesses,

You're thinking "eyewitnesses," but that's not what I said. I said witnesses. If there had to be at least one eyewitness to a crime, then those who commit crimes when no one is around could never be found guilty.

No, I said "witnesses" because evidence, even circumstantial, is a witness, a bloody shirt, video footage or photographs, alibis, all are witnesses. There's a reason the Bible says "two to three" witnesses, and it's not because God was indecisive on how many we should have to determine a matter. He wants us to weigh the evidence, to determine if it can justify or condemn, and to what extent.

all we have is some circumstantial evidence from which we draw our own conclusions based on our own biases.

Circumstantial evidence is still evidence.

Throwing evidence out should be a crime, because not only is it obstruction of justice, it prohibits the judge from making a decision based on all the facts.

Thus operates the legal system.

Then the legal system is broken, and needs to be fixed or replaced.

There is no possible way you could know his intentions.

The fact that Martin was beating Zimmerman's head against the pavement and the wounds on Zimmerman's head and face are strong evidence that that was his intention, not to mention the fact that Zimmerman, out of self defence, felt the need to defend himself with lethal force.

A young man with a brain not yet fully developed,

No doubt stunted by his pot consumption...

especially in the area that handles impulse control.

See the links I provided above.

I wonder what sort of man he might have become had he had the chance to grow up.

Well, if he had continued to use pot regularly, probably a loser, degenerate, and someone who would probably fail most of his life.
 

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Trayvon Martin was kicked out of public schools in Miami. Do you know how bad one has to be to be expelled from a public school when you are black? That is how rotten to the core that 17 year old 6'3 violent offender was. I am glad he is dead.
 

eider

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George Clooney is moving from the English country side back to America, LA to be specific.


Because the violent streets of LA are safer than being unarmed and around muslims. No other reason, don't be fooled.

Life & Style has exclusively learned that George Clooney has recently made plans to move back to LA, for the safety of his family, after the latest spate of terror attacks in England.

“He doesn’t feel like Amal and the twins are safe living in the English countryside,” an insider says. “He’s determined to move his family to LA, where he feels much more secure.”

George’s safety concerns had been growing for years. The Oscar winner “has been subject to very serious threats in the past,” reveals the source, because of his humanitarian efforts in Darfur, Sudan. And Amal’s work as an international human rights lawyer, along with her public pleas for foreign governments to prosecute terrorists, has made her a potential target.

His activism was before he went there. He is leaving because he knows in his heart muslims will chop his head off even though he defends them. And he wants to have armed guards on him at all times.


George Clooney's rep has informed Gossip Cop that he has never left LA. He has always lived in LA and London. The mag you quoted prints drivvle, apparently.... it reported that the Clooney's were involved in a $200million divorce bust-up only two years ago. The Clooneys don't seem to like Life&Style.

We've had 'right-wing-nuts' committing terrorist attacks on Muslims (Findsbury Mosque) as well as 'Islam-nuts' attacking secular targets (Borough-Manchester). The risks here from religious, political, criminal-abduction attacks are high. We are used to Christian-attacks as well..... incidents like the one where Lord Mountbatten was blown up on his motor-yacht, you'll remember.

But..... yes, any celebrity with a mega-high profile and any background that might inflame any kind of nutters or criminals needs to massively increase security, travel-route secrecy, location secrecy, and by advertising a move away, Mr Clooney increases security at his English home for when he decides to discreetly visit.

https://www.gossipcop.com/george-clooney-not-moving-amal-twins-back-to-la-security-reasons/
The (Life and Style) tabloid is still peddling misinformation about the Clooneys, even after its 2015 cover story that wrongly claimed George and Amal were on the brink of a “nasty $200 million divorce.” More recently, in May, the magazine seemingly fabricated an article about the Clooneys having “baby drama” before the birth of their twins. In actuality, the pair was in a state of bliss and still are.
 

exminister

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exmin said:
You might be the first Christian who I am aware of who believes God is not for you in this world. Here, you are on your own. He can only help you in the next. Interesting. That might explain a lot.

That's not what he said.

But it is what he meant, which he clarified in a subsequent post. I do find his rational for it interesting and explanatory. As the kids say "Not mad at it".

JudgeRightly said:

Do I believe that God will supernaturally intervene when I'm in trouble? No, and for good reason.


Do I think that God does not support what I do? If what I do is evil or sinful, then of course not; but if what I do is good, then I am in His will. If God wanted to, could He intervene in this world? Sure. But He doesn't. God has done that enough, enough to show that miracles signs and wonders produce unbelief, and that's counterproductive to what He is trying to accomplish.


http://theologyonline.com/showthread.php?125862-Its-safer-to-own-a-gun&p=5059221&viewfull=1#post5059221
 

musterion

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Trayvon Martin was kicked out of public schools in Miami. Do you know how bad one has to be to be expelled from a public school when you are black? That is how rotten to the core that 17 year old 6'3 violent offender was. I am glad he is dead.

Yup.
 

musterion

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But he wuz just turning his life around...he wuz a scholar...he just wanted his Skillets and purple drank...he wuz a good boy...he just got him a gold toof...society is less without him...racists...
 

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Adultery, and that is a red herring. We are talking about is it necessary or ok to use a gun to kill somebody. God himself has shown the way because idiots like you pretend you don't know right from wrong. And your hedging your answers and misdirection proves you do know, but do not care.
And part of that discussion is about your intentions when you use that gun. Self defense or something else. God judges us by the contents of our hearts, not our actions. That is what Christ is saying in that passage.



Aside from post purging for server space, I am sure I can find you claiming the intention of others.
I'd be surprised if you did. I don't presume to judge others intentions.
 
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