Creation vs. Evolution

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Jacob

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Yup, a test for the real “money” is the fossil record, untainted by the corruption of man. Then we compare that to the claims made in a religious creation account passed down millennia ago from a scientifically illiterate nomadic society. That account was as good as the contemporary creation myths, but as Paul says in the New Testament, it is now time to put away childish things. I side with evidence that is agreed on by scientists (many Christian) from all over the word, but you prefer a literalist reading of an ancient myth of uncertain origin that only your own narrow clan of fundamentalists think is absolute truth.

Why on earth is accepting the record we see in the rocks a bad thing? It just means you might have to admit that the creation account in Genesis is not a literal history.

I have already made it clear, I am not a fan of used-car salesman type tactics. If you want me to ignore the very first pages of “God’s Word” and jump to the end, then let’s quit the pretense and rip Genesis out of the Bible. You OK with that?
I don't have a problem with the evidence. I may have a problem with the dating of the evidence, depending on who you ask. AND, I am not an expert. I only remember this from past "study" meaning observing online discourse on the matter, for which I have no links.
 

alwight

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Right, but you can Also see my Point, of How, "If Zeus did Return From Mount Olympus, You would Freak out Seeing Him Arrive".
You will also Fear God, in a Like Way when He Returns. It's not a Threat, like the Evols from my Editions of, "Those Funny things you Atheists Say", If you feel threatened by something, you have to believe in it, My Point is, when you finally do see, and Believe, You will Be Full Of Fear.

Fear Will Abound, Even the Rocks will Scream Out. LOL!!!!

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I intend to remain as I am until it actually happens thanks mARK (oops). Whatever "it" is.
 

Mark SeaSigh

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Your caps key has a strange malady of turning on for just the first letter of lots of the ordinary words in your sentences.

Oh, I'm Glad you Noticed my Lovely Writing Style.

Thanks!!!

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Would you care to Give me your own Personal Definition of the Commonly Used Atheist Word, "Nature".

As it has been Used in this Sentence; "Nature Made Life Appear from Non-Life".
 

Mark SeaSigh

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I intend to remain as I am until it actually happens thanks mARK (oops). Whatever "it" is.

Right, so you understand, and Acknowledge my Point.

Atheists, Will Not Fear God, Until they See Him.

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You don't Fear God, because you don't Understand Him.

I Fear God, and Follow His Commandments, but Even I will Probably be in Fear, when He Arrives with Jesus, in All His Glory.
 

alwight

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You don't Fear God, because you don't Understand Him.

I Fear God, and Follow His Commandments, but Even I will Probably be in Fear, when He Arrives with Jesus, in All His Glory.
I don't fear your God because I genuinely don't believe that your God exists.


(I'm not aware of any threats from any real god out there.)
 

DavisBJ

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The Dating Methods are Obviously in Error, if they are Wrong when they Date things with Known Age.

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And when that happens, we try to identify what caused the discrepancy. The end result is an improvement in the dating method that makes it even more reliable and robust.
 

noguru

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Christians apparently fear God but love Jesus, while the Holy Ghost never seems to get anything much? :think:

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What seems odd to me is that people like Untellectual, Mark IsHigh, and others like seem to think they are doing a smash up job selling their specific theology. When in reality their ineptitude makes potential customers back away very slowly without any regret that they might be missing something.

I am imagining a time in the future when they are standing in front of God, while looking a bit confused and amazed at all the agnostics/atheists in heaven. God says;

Well I certainly could not punish these people simply because I had inept salespeople like you guys.

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At any rate, they will tell you the Holy Ghost is there to cover for their ineptitude.
 

MichaelCadry

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Evolution is only about change and adaption to the environment, there is no apparent goal or destiny. What works in one environment might well be a liability in another, so comparing one extant species against another is pointless since all are the result of evolution and natural selection.
Cave crabs for example no longer have eyes but have so far retained eyestalks, eyes serve no purpose in the dark, perhaps eyestalks will evolve away too? It's simply adaption to the environment not a progression toward a supposed ideal.


Dear Alwight,

It would not surprise me if God made the cave crabs without eyes because they are cave crabs. Who is to say if they EVER had eyes??

Cheerio,

Michael
 

MichaelCadry

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NOTE: Post From 6days
Pg. 341; Post No. 5106

Radiometric dating that gives dates of millions or billions of years relies on certain assumptions... and of course on some science.

For example... uranium decays into lead...
UH,,, I'm going to do my best to explain... BJ or Barbarian may help me out but possibly with some evolutionary spin.
235U uranium decays to 207Pb lead (daughter element) with a half-life of 704 million years. It actually is a fairly precise measurement of the decay rate. So ..... 235U will be half gone in 704 million years...In another 704 million years, it will be 75% gone...and so on.
But the assumption is that it was completely 235U to begin with.
But..... we know from Gods Word that He created. So... if God created lead as part of the original creation... radiometric results mean little, because we don't know the initial percentage of parent and daughter elements.

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I think this says it all, tbh!

Michael
 

Mark SeaSigh

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:rotfl:

What seems odd to me is that people like Untellectual, Mark IsHigh, and others like seem to think they are doing a smash up job selling their specific theology. When in reality their ineptitude makes potential customers back away very slowly without any regret that they might be missing something.

I am imagining a time in the future when they are standing in front of God, while looking a bit confused and amazed at all the agnostics/atheists in heaven. God says;


:rotfl:

At any rate, they will tell you the Holy Ghost is there to cover for their ineptitude.

What's Truly, Really Sad However, is that Evolutionists Constantly Scorn YEC's for using the Phrase, "God Did It", Even though, I rarely hear YEC's Implement that Argument. These Same Evolutionists Use the Word, "Nature", to form the same Kind of Translucent Arguments; Such as, "Nature is What caused Life to Appear From Inorganic Material".

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No Guru, could you give me a Personal Definition of the Word, "Nature", as it was Just Used in a Sentence that I copied from an Atheist, naturalist?

Hi Michael!!! : D
 
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Mark SeaSigh

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I don't fear your God because I genuinely don't believe that your God exists.


(I'm not aware of any threats from any real god out there.)

Right, that's exactly what I'm saying.

You don't fear What You Don't Believe in; But, when God Does come, You will be in Fear. Even I will be shaken by the Glory and Might in his Arrival. The mountains Will Shake and Tremble, in the Sight of the LORD God.

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Mountains quake because of Him And the hills dissolve; Indeed the earth is upheaved by His presence, The world and all the inhabitants in it. Who can stand before His indignation? Who can endure the burning of His anger? His wrath is poured out like fire And the rocks are broken up by Him.
 
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Mark SeaSigh

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Dear Alwight,

It would not surprise me if God made the cave crabs without eyes because they are cave crabs. Who is to say if they EVER had eyes??

Cheerio,

Michael

Right, and Remember AL, It wouldn't be a Surprise If Crabs Did Mutate, and Lost a Certain bit of Information from their Genome, which Rendered them Eyeless. What I'm Saying will Never Happen, is New Anatomy, Which the Creature did Not Originally Contain when it was Created, which would be New Information Being Placed into the Genome, to form New Structures, which is what would be Necessary, to say, "Change a Whale to A Hippo". Like the Evolutionists, apparently believe Happened.

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