Creation vs. Evolution

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DavisBJ said:
Something wrong here, big time. A philosophical approach that proves whatever religion you choose to adopt to be the right one is actually just a placebo.
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Yes...I think I can agree with you... (You know the 'but' is next)
Religions are a philosophical approach to life. And, they all disagree with one another don't they?
So... we have one of two choices...
1) ALL religions, including atheism are wrong
2) One religion is correct, and all others are wrong.

Now... of all the religions, including atheism, man is trying to make himself good enough. (To please others, self, God, gods). But Christianity tells us something different from all other religions. You aren't good enough. I'm not good enough. We are corrupt sinners.

When we stand before our Maker at the judgement, all our attempts at making ourselves 'good' will fall short of God's standard. But the good news is that God's Son, Jesus Christ has offered to be our mediator. Jesus stepped in and He made me righteous. I almost shudder calling myself righteous, because I so often fail Him... But thats what His Word tells us...
2Cor. 5:21 "For God made Christ, who never sinned, to be the offering for our sin, so that we could be made right with God through Christ."

So...its not what I do...its all about what Christ has already done.
John 3:16 ""For God loved the world so much that he gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life."
 
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Now... of all the religions, including atheism, man is trying to make himself good enough. (To please others, self, God, gods). But Christianity tells us something different from all other religions. You aren't good enough. I'm not good enough. We are corrupt sinners.
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This argument is not even logical. If in all other religions, man is "trying to make himself good enough for....". then man is "not good enough" in those religions as well. And then you wonder why people don't take you seriously?
 
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noguru said:
This argument is not even logical. If in all other religions, man is "trying to make himself good enough for....". then man is "not good enough" in those religions as well. And then you wonder why people don't take you seriously?
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He is talking about the idea that "if you do this this and this then you will be accepted by God and others".
 
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I wonder if No Guru is Implying by wondering this, That; "Atheism leads to People who don't care about what they Accomplish", and, "Why help your Neighbor at all", Right? "if you are never going to Get anything in return for it".

I think, I understand your Point No Guru.

That's actually one of the Points, the Last Atheist makes, in my Last edition of; "Oh the Funny things you Atheists Say".

Nice.

Atheism Leads to Worthless Beings, that Really don't care about Impressing anybody, or Doing the Right thing; And So, it eventually leads to Useless, Good For Nothings, that just Sit around all Day, waiting to Debate their Favorite Creationists, On theology Web Sites.

Thanks For helping me Understand a Concept, Betty.

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Untellectual said:
Not if it is incorrect.
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I would expect a tad more maturity in your responses. I can equally well dismiss any possible evidence for God or the Bible being true by employing that answer. Would you feel I was honestly engaging your responses if I stooped to that level?
 
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DavisBJ said:
I would expect a tad more maturity in your responses. I can equally well dismiss any possible evidence for God or the Bible being true by employing that answer. Would you feel I was honestly engaging your responses if I stooped to that level?
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I'm referring to the debates Christians and evolutionists have had about the dating of rock layers. The same rock layers (evidence), but different dates (interpretation of that evidence). Again, I don't have any link for you. It's just that years ago I saw something about this online.
 
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I'm referring to the debates Christians and evolutionists have had about the dating of rock layers. The same rock layers (evidence), but different dates (interpretation of that evidence). Again, I don't have any link for you. It's just that years ago I saw something about this online.
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Makes no difference. That was no more than a trite response that shed no light on the subject at all. Sometimes you do pretty well, and other times you respond like a little child.
 
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DavisBJ said:
Makes no difference. That was no more than a trite response that shed no light on the subject at all. Sometimes you do pretty well, and other times you respond like a little child.
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Telling you what affects my thinking is not immature.
 
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noguru said:
This argument is not even logical. If in all other religions, man is "trying to make himself good enough for....". then man is "not good enough" in those religions as well. And then you wonder why people don't take you seriously?
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Dear noguru,

I think he makes plenty of sense. Those who choose Christ in their lives are the only ones who are going to make it. It doesn't matter if you believe in a God or god or not.

Michael

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Dear Untellectual,

Don't sell yourself short. You've done wonderfully and you still do. Davis is lucky he has YOU to talk to him.

Michael
 
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Untellectual said:
I have been thankful that you have been willing to talk to me.
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Honestly, sometimes I read the post you are responding to, and then I read your response, and I wonder if you actually meant that response to answer some other post in some unknown thread.

I will respond if I feel there is something worth saying. But if I feel we are not communicating well at all, then I have higher priorities on my time.

On the recent discussion of evolution between us, as it stands now, if I see you denigrate evolution in another thread, I will simply remind you that you have admitted you have no scientific basis to question evolution, and your position has no more substance than your faith in an ancient nomadic creation story being accurate history.
 
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DavisBJ said:
Honestly, sometimes I read the post you are responding to, and then I read your response, and I wonder if you actually meant that response to answer some other post in some unknown thread.

I will respond if I feel there is something worth saying. But if I feel we are not communicating well at all, then I have higher priorities on my time.

On the recent discussion of evolution between us, as it stands now, if I see you denigrate evolution in another thread, I will simply remind you that you have admitted you have no scientific basis to question evolution, and your position has no more substance than your faith in an ancient nomadic creation story being accurate history.
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There are different scientific dating methods than only the ones employed by those who support evolution.
 
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DavisBJ said:
What are they?
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That is a great question. All I know is that if you using a particular method to date a rock you will get an age for that rock. If you use the age of that rock to date something else the process breaks down. Especially if the first date was incorrect based on faulty dating.
 
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