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killing babies is ugly
supporting baby killers is ugly

Then you obviously don't love the truth according to your own (flawed) definition of it or "everything" would be "suddenly be beautiful."

Your nonsensical "love the truth and everything is beautiful" was a non-sequitur in response to my telling you that rigid, unyielding authoritarians are not known for their ability to show love.

I believe you do love, and want to love, but if the object of your love doesn't conform to your rigid and unyielding specifications, if they fail you in that, you can't allow yourself to express that love. You withhold it from them, unless and until the person conforms to your standards.
 

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Then you obviously don't love the truth according to your own (flawed) definition of it or "everything" would be "suddenly be beautiful."

Your nonsensical "love the truth and everything is beautiful" was a non-sequitur in response to my telling you that rigid, unyielding authoritarians are not known for their ability to show love.

I believe you do love, and want to love, but if the object of your love doesn't conform to your rigid and unyielding specifications, if they fail you in that, you can't allow yourself to express that love. You withhold it from them, unless and until the person conforms to your standards.

killing babies is not a thing
it is killing a thing
supporting baby killers is not a thing
it is promoting evil
evil is not a thing
it is the killing of something beautiful
 

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How can you support a political party that supports abortion?

I've told you before, but you either can't or won't acknowledge it.

Principle of double effect. Look it up.

I understand you're locked into this. Almost pathologically, to be honest. Yes, abortion kills the baby. Yes, throughout history, women have aborted their babies, and if Roe v Wade were overturned tomorrow, there would still be women who would abort their babies. I am not one of them. You will not (did not) shame me into voting for the absolutely most grotesque individual to ever hold the office. You should be ashamed for supporting him, for what he and his cohorts have done to this country. Shame on you.
 

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Yes, abortion kills the baby.

It's always wrong to kill a baby.

So why not oppose ANYONE (not just the people in the opposite political party as you) who would support such an act for any reason?

Yes, throughout history, women have aborted their babies,

And it has only become more common since legalizing it.

and if Roe v Wade were overturned tomorrow, there would still be women who would abort their babies.

Which is a tragedy indeed, simply because of all the "pro-life" laws that the "pro-life" movement has put into effect that would keep abortion legal.

I am not one of them.

Have you ever?

You will not (did not) shame me into voting for the absolutely most grotesque individual to ever hold the office. You should be ashamed for supporting him, for what he and his cohorts have done to this country. Shame on you.

Your opinions of him notwithstanding, he has done some good for this country, though he is far from being a Christian, let alone a great leader.

Don't vote for him if you don't want to.

But don't vote for the other guy when he supports killing babies in the womb just as much, if not more, than Trump does.

Or is your lust to see Trump lose greater than your love for the baby in the womb?

Vote Tom Hoefling, who does care about the baby in the womb.
 

annabenedetti

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It's always wrong to kill a baby.

So why not oppose ANYONE (not just the people in the opposite political party as you) who would support such an act for any reason?

Principle of double effect. Look it up.

And it has only become more common since legalizing it.

No, it's been trending downward for decades and is currently almost back to the level it was when Roe v Wade became law.

Have you ever?

Been pregnant? Yes. Had an abortion? No.

Your opinions of him notwithstanding, he has done some good for this country, though he is far from being a Christian, let alone a great leader.

Don't vote for him if you don't want to.

But don't vote for the other guy when he supports killing babies in the womb just as much, if not more, than Trump does.

Or is your lust to see Trump lose greater than your love for the baby in the womb?

Vote Tom Hoefling, who does care about the baby in the womb.

I already voted for Joe Biden.

I don't lust for Trump to lose. I vote for him to lose.
 

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  • Pope Francis reportedly called for a “civil union law” for same-sex couples in a documentary that premiered Wednesday.
  • “What we have to create is a civil union law,” Francis purportedly said. “That way they are legally covered. I stood up for that.”
  • Catholic author Phil Lawler told the Daily Caller News Foundation: “It’s increasingly difficult to avoid the conclusion that Pope Francis wants to cause confusion.”


https://dailycaller.com/2020/10/21/...JqapjGN4IzJ_s6-SYukwbPG79DAuggC_mAz82MCAKRKwc
 

annabenedetti

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“Homosexual people have the right to be in a family. They are children of God,” Francis said in one of his sit-down interviews for the film. “You can't kick someone out of a family, nor make their life miserable for this. What we have to have is a civil union law; that way they are legally covered.”

You love the babies before they're born and you love them after they're born.
 

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“Homosexual people have the right to be in a family. They are children of God,” Francis said in one of his sit-down interviews for the film. “You can't kick someone out of a family, nor make their life miserable for this. What we have to have is a civil union law; that way they are legally covered.”

You love the babies before they're born and you love them after they're born.
Liberal is as liberal does. Specifically liberal meaning the political ideology valuing the absolute appreciation of rights, especially inalienable ones, and also the American founding proposition "[all men are equal]". He is politically liberal.

He didn't and won't contradict the magisterium's, and therefore the Apostles', and therefore the Lord's instructions. The Lord taught His Apostles a lot about how to treat another man or another woman, including how to treat those outside His Church, He said, "treat him as you would a Gentile or a tax collector".

Everyone has the same rights, all rights are of equal weight or value, Gentiles and tax collectors have all the same rights as us, and Pope Francis said nothing in conflict with any of these ideas, which are liberal ideas yielding liberal ideology.
 

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  • Pope Francis reportedly called for a “civil union law” for same-sex couples in a documentary that premiered Wednesday.
  • “What we have to create is a civil union law,” Francis purportedly said. “That way they are legally covered. I stood up for that.”
  • Catholic author Phil Lawler told the Daily Caller News Foundation: “It’s increasingly difficult to avoid the conclusion that Pope Francis wants to cause confusion.”


https://dailycaller.com/2020/10/21/...JqapjGN4IzJ_s6-SYukwbPG79DAuggC_mAz82MCAKRKwc

:vomit:

Francis is EVIL!
 

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Not so fast.
That may be true when there is not a clear difference between candidates

You mean you can tell the difference between the lying, thieving, adulterous, fornicating, murderous, child-killing socialist and the adulterous, fornicating, thieving, child-killing, lying, murderous socialist?

but
in this case there is a huge difference
and
you must vote for the candidate who has clearly demonstrated a commitment to pro life.

Like I said. Tom Hoefling.

See http://prolifeprofiles.com/tom-hoefling-americas-party
 

Arthur Brain

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Francis is EVIL!

Why? Because he doesn't go along with your particular belief or what you hold "to be true"? Heck, you're on record for supporting the execution of five year old children via stabbing to death on here so keep your stupid vomit smileys to yourself. You are out there and then some.

:freak:
 
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