The same time He did so for everyone else; He died once, for all.
Yes, for sin (singular) and sins (plural)!
(All
bolding my emphasis)
My sins did not exist when Christ died. I did not exist. Christ did not die for individual sins; He died for sin as a whole.
I knew that's what OVers believe, but it still makes my jawdrop. It still makes me sick to my stomach. What a disgusting display of unbelief! You spit on the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ in your place! You're so spoiled by your philosophy you can't see straight. Your mind is corrupted. You deny that Christ died for your sins which is a very important part of the very gospel that is the power of God to save you (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV)! Face what you deny!
Romans 4:25 KJV
Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
1 Corinthians 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that
Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
You deny that Christ died for your sins (plural). It doesn't say sin (singular) there it says sins (plural) and you don't believe it as it is written.
Galatians 1:4
Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:
You deny that He gave Himself for your sins (plural).
Colossians 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him,
having forgiven you all trespasses;
You don't believe you had any trespasses to forgive, let alone all of them.
And just whose "body of the sins of the flesh" needed to be put off by the circumcision of Christ?
Colossians 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with
the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
I'll answer the question for you: They were ours!
I never said that's when He died. You need to learn to pay attention.
I asked, "When did Christ die for your sins? When was He delivered for your offences?" Your reply was:
You want the specific date and time?
I received the gift when I repented.
I think it's you who needs to pay attention.
I have never argued otherwise.
Sure you have as proven above by all those verses that have "sins" in them. The sins (plural) that you deny that Christ died for.
You have demonstrated that you do not really understand what it means to repent.
I was mocking the fact that you and others are always using the term. And Bob Enyart is more of an example than I of someone who doesn't "really understand what it means to repent" when he says things like, “He is giving opportunity for people to repent of their sins, even of killing their own children, and turning to Him” and “Repent or you’re going to hell” as he did in this show
http://kgov.com/bel/20110120 I mean really, it sounds like a Way of the Master perverted gospel. Maybe you should suggest he take an English class. Better yet, a gospel 101 class.
That is a change of mind. Do you need an English class?
No, having never had an opinion about Christ and one day hearing the gospel preached and trusting the Lord believing it for salvation is not a "change of mind". It's trusting the Lord after hearing and believing the word of truth (Ephesians 1:13 KJV). Romans 10:17 KJV So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. That's not by repenting.
You really don't know what a change of mind is, do you?
I know and understand just fine. I didn't need to change my mind to receive the gift. I received it by faith.
Were you transformed? If so, by what were you transformed? Was it, maybe, the renewing of your mind?
That transforming is the renewing of a saved individual. We know this because you cannot serve unless you are saved. It certainly could not be an unbeliever as they that are in the flesh cannot please God (Romans 8:8 KJV).
Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. 2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
You need to learn the meaning of words.
You need to spend less time in your Greek and Hebrew and believe the word of God as it is written.
You're using "repent" to mean something other than I am, which is why you're failing.
So you say.
If you desire to elaborate on this claim that it is not within said book, go ahead.
I already did. Bob does not recognize who the twain made one new man are and therefore cannot make all men see the fellowship of the mystery.
No, I said your mind was changed, and that we received the forgiveness He had already offered when we accepted it.
You're backtracking.
I said, "That is not our pattern for forgiving one another. This is:
Ephesians 4:32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you."
To which you replied: "And He forgave us when we repented."
That's what was said and you've yet to explain why you run to a pattern of forgiveness under the kingdom gospel when it differs from the pattern that Paul wrote to us on forgiving one another. That's not rightly dividing. That's not holding fast the form of sound words that you have heard of Paul. Bob uses the same example for forgiving as you. You both err there.
So then it couldn't be as you said earlier.
Do you think I disagree with this?
You say God "forgave us when we repented" so yes, you disagree with Colossians 2:13 KJV.
Do you know what "quickened" means? I bet you don't.
It means made alive. Now you know what it means, too.
