Alt-righter plows into crowd of anti-racists in Charlottesville

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drbrumley said:
Funny, Trump condemns Antifa and other hate groups, and he gets raked over the coals, Pelosi condemns her side for once, and everything is a ok...
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Yeppers.
Trump gets condemned for saying there was violence on all sides that should be condemned.
Peloski gets praised for saying there was violence on all sides that should be condemned.
 
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kmoney said:
I try to be more fair than that. :idunno:
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More fair than what? It's fair to say that people who are comfortable with the support of Nazis aren't very fine people.


Ktoyou said:
domestic violence is always unacceptable
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That's the truth. And what Tam said wasn't. Worse, she knew it, avoided it to repeat the thing she knew wasn't true.

What I said was that violence is no way to differ. Then Tam said the opposite was true of me, so I spelled it out again and she just dodged it, supra.

I don't know anything really the guy who threw a punch. All I know is that he did and that he shouldn't have. I know what the Nazi is...and he's always a bad guy.
 
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Town Heretic said:
More fair than what? It's fair to say that people who are comfortable with the support of Nazis aren't very fine people.



That's the truth. And what Tam said wasn't. Worse, she knew it, avoided it to repeat the thing she knew wasn't true.

What I said was that violence is no way to differ. Then Tam said the opposite was true of me, so I spelled it out again and she just dodged it, supra.

I don't know anything really the guy who threw a punch. All I know is that he did and that he shouldn't have. I know what the Nazi is...and he's always a bad guy.
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Yep, the Nazi types are always bad because they are motivated by violence. For me, all state owned corporations are repressive and inept. I dislike ANTIFA because they say they are against capitalism and are also violent.

Nazis are the worst because they take on the darkest part, hate for those who differ from them. Trump should have said the same; Nazis are worst but all those being violent are wrong.
 
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Ktoyou said:
Yep, the Nazi types are always bad because they are motivated by violence. For me, all state owned corporations are repressive and inept. I dislike ANTIFA because they say they are against capitalism and are also violent.

Nazis are the worst because they take on the darkest part, hate for those who differ from them. Trump should have said the same; Nazis are worst but all those being violent are wrong.
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Antifa are just Nazis by another name. They hate those who differ from them, too. I see no "worst" in any of those groups.
 
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glorydaz said:
Antifa are just Nazis by another name. They hate those who differ from them, too. I see no "worst" in any of those groups.
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When you hear the word Nazi, you think of the gas chambers, the concentration camps and the holocaust. Maybe all Nazis didn't want that to happen and many got caught up in the Mob Mentality, which is happening now on the left.
 
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glorydaz said:
Antifa are just Nazis by another name. They hate those who differ from them, too. I see no "worst" in any of those groups.
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They are authoritarian communists as opposed to authoritarian fascists. They have more in common with one another than they do your average citizen but antifa are not Nazis (that's why they show up to counter-protest Nazi protests)

I do agree that they are equally not good and define themselves by who and what they hate.
 
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glorydaz said:
Antifa are just Nazis by another name. They hate those who differ from them, too. I see no "worst" in any of those groups.
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Antifa is wrong, being against capitalists, yet Nazis who hate based on 'race' are far more destructive to the American fabric. Any good politician would be perfectly clear, Nazis are not tolerable in the USA
 
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WizardofOz said:
They are authoritarian communists as opposed to authoritarian fascists. They have more in common with one another than they do your average citizen but antifa are not Nazis (that's why they show up to counter-protest Nazi protests)

I do agree that they are equally not good and define themselves by who and what they hate.
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Well, true, but politically, the capitalists are not going to be deterred by silly bootless kids protesting. On the other hand, Nazis against all minorities is much mote ready to justify harmful treatment to oppressed persons in the US. Hardly do rich people care much about silly yelling kids who are usually at other poor people, like those being Nazis; they will never attack the true capitalists.

Nazis are the worst because they hate the most vulnerable people with a history of oppression.
 
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WizardofOz said:
They are authoritarian communists as opposed to authoritarian fascists. They have more in common with one another than they do your average citizen but antifa are not Nazis (that's why they show up to counter-protest Nazi protests)

I do agree that they are equally not good and define themselves by who and what they hate.
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They are actually neo-nazis. But, you're correct, there is no difference between those who practice the same tactics in the name of the ideology that gave us Hitler and those who do the same in the name of the ideology that gave us Stalin.
 
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patrick jane said:
When you hear the word Nazi, you think of the gas chambers, the concentration camps and the holocaust. Maybe all Nazis didn't want that to happen and many got caught up in the Mob Mentality, which is happening now on the left.
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Yeah, but we aren't going to see any gas chambers here, unless Antifa grows and puts forth a "strong leader". I see a lot of merging with all these extremist groups...anarchy.

Nazism Definition:
An aggressive political and militaristic form of government including the use of international deceit and expansionism, the arbitrary suspension of the rule of law, and arbitrary eugenics or genocide.
Related Terms: Fascism

Most authors associate Nazism with (national) socialism and the availability of a strong leader, and in this, the reference is to Adolph Hitler in Germany from 1934 to 1945.

The other core concepts of Nazism are:

Expansionism;
The rejection if not outright derision of democracy and communism; The sharing of some features with Facism;
Anti-Semitism
The nationalization of industry;
A state policy of eugenics, racism and even genocide;
Extensive use of the death penalty.
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glorydaz said:
They are actually neo-nazis. But, you're correct, there is no difference between those who practice the same tactics in the name of the ideology that gave us Hitler and those who do the same in the name of the ideology that gave us Stalin.
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And to compare Trump to those two thugs, like the left does, is reprehensible to me. Trump is nothing like those two
 
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