Far Better To Build Immune System than Count on Vaccines

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way 2 go

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ffreeloader said:
Too bad truth means nothing to UN.
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Rev 9:20 And the rest of the men who were not killed by these plagues still did not repent of the works of their hands, that they should not worship demons, and golden, and silver, and bronze, and stone, and wooden idols (which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk).

I used to wonder what the revelation generation would be like, not there yet but we can see it from here
 
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expos4ever

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way 2 go said:
The EudraVigilance database reports that through September 25, 2021 there are 26,041 deaths and 2,448,362 injuries reported following injections of four experimental COVID-19 shots:
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Look genius - people die after many things. In fact I will bet that 99% of people have died within days or hours of drinking water. Does this mean that water killed them?

Give your head a shake man!
 
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way 2 go said:
Rev 9:20 And the rest of the men who were not killed by these plagues still did not repent of the works of their hands, that they should not worship demons, and golden, and silver, and bronze, and stone, and wooden idols (which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk).

I used to wonder what the revelation generation would be like, not there yet but we can see it from here
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I know, right? I worshipped my wooden tiki head totem pole before I got my vaccine, and I'm sure everyone else who got vaxxed did too. It can neither see, nor hear, nor walk, but oh well.

The end is nigh!
 
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marke

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expos4ever said:
It is basically impossible that you are so dumb as to think this objection of yours has merit. So more dishonesty from you.

When way 2 go claims a causal connection, he is lying - it is well known this data does not establish causation, but merely correlation.

Even if, repeat even if, all these adverse effects turn out to be caused by covid, way 2 go is still lying in the present since he does not know that there is such a cause and effect relationship.
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I believe juries may end up siding with plaintives who later sue officials for damages caused by the vaccine.
 
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marke

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Trump called it "Operation Warp Speed." But that doesn't mean animal testing wasn't done:

"Each of the COVID-19 vaccines authorized for use in the U.S. have completed animal testing...
Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson each discussed their vaccines’ animal studies in press releases. In each of the vaccines’ animal testing trials, the vaccines showed they effectively limit COVID-19 contraction. In the Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson Emergency Use Authorization forms, the FDA referenced the results from each of the vaccines’ animal studies. The results from these animal studies were also published in peer-reviewed journals."

www.usatoday.com

Fact check: Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccines all passed animal testing

Each of the three COVID-19 vaccines approved for use in the U.S. passed animal testing studies. Claims otherwise are false.
www.usatoday.com

You are wrong again, as usual.
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Government-approved papers in group-think journals will never fully hide the fact that covid vaccines have been having serious side effects in far too many who are persuaded by biased reporting and government-backed mandates to take the jabs.
 
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marke

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expos4ever said:
What utter nonsense.

I cannot believe you are so dumb as to not understand that if a person dies after the vaccine, that does not mean the vaccine killed them. How many 90 years olds in the US will die within 6 months of seeing their grandchildren? Thousands, no doubt.

Did seeing the grandkids do these oldsters in?

The stupidity here is beyond belief.
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It takes a great deal of blind faith in lying government-approved propaganda not to be able to see that people are dying from the covid jab worldwide.
 
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expos4ever

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marke said:
I believe juries may end up siding with plaintives who later sue officials for damages caused by the vaccine.
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And a jury believed OJ was innocent.

You are, as usual, dancing evasively to avoid the heart of the issue - way 2 go consistently tries to perpetrate the deception that just because something bad happened after the vaccine, the vaccine therefore caused that bad thing.

He cannot possibly be so stupid to believe this.

Only rational conclusion: he, like you, is a liar.
 
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expos4ever

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marke said:
It takes a great deal of blind faith in lying government-approved propaganda not to be able to see that people are dying from the covid jab worldwide.
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All right, let's do this the hard way.

If x happens after y, does this mean x caused y?

A simple question that I am sure will be responded to with something like this:

Satan-worshipping leftist child-molesters believe the propaganda that this vaccine, developed and approved by demons, is safe.
 
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marke

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expos4ever said:
And a jury believed OJ was innocent.

You are, as usual, dancing evasively to avoid the heart of the issue - way 2 go consistently tries to perpetrate the deception that just because something bad happened after the vaccine, the vaccine therefore caused that bad thing.

He cannot possibly be so stupid to believe this.

Only rational conclusion: he, like you, is a liar.
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Stupidity is believing that after nearly 2 years of not getting infected with covid now the only hope of not getting infected with covid is to take the Fauci/Gates jab.
 
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marke

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expos4ever said:
All right, let's do this the hard way.

If x happens after y, does this mean x caused y?

A simple question that I am sure will be responded to with something like this:

Satan-worshipping leftist child-molesters believe the propaganda that this vaccine, developed and approved by demons, is safe.
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If someone suddenly develops serious health issues after taking the covid jab it is stupid to claim the covid jab had nothing to do with it when that has never been proven, especially when doctors have no idea what caused the sudden illness..
 
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expos4ever

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marke said:
Stupidity is believing that after nearly 2 years of not getting infected with covid now the only hope of not getting infected with covid is to take the Fauci/Gates jab.
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What are you on about man? Yes, if you hide under a rock, the vaccine has no benefit. But to those of who live in real world, it has been proven to offer substantial protection against serious illness.
 
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marke

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expos4ever said:
What are you on about man? Yes, if you hide under a rock, the vaccine has no benefit. But to those of who live in real world, it has been proven to offer substantial protection against serious illness.
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The vaccine has proven to be a bad thing for those who caught covid or died from some other sudden illness after taking the Fauci-Gates jab.
 
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expos4ever

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marke said:
If someone suddenly develops serious health issues after taking the covid jab it is stupid to claim the covid jab had nothing to do with it when that has never been proven, especially when doctors have no idea what caused the sudden illness..
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Think about how stupid this statement is:

If someone suddenly develops serious health issues after a satisfying, voluminous bowel movement, it is stupid to claim that the satisfying voluminous bowel movement had nothing to do with it when that has never been proven, especially when doctors have no idea what caused the sudden illness

In any event, no one ever said the vaccines had nothing to do with any of health issues.
 
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expos4ever

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marke said:
The vaccine has proven to be a bad thing for those who caught covid or died from some other sudden illness after taking the Fauci-Gates jab.
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It must be nice to believe that what you wish to be true is, in fact, true solely based on such a wish.

Those of us who live on planet Earth know things are not that simple - we need evidence.

Your claim here is, of course, a speculation with no evidentiary support.
 
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marke

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expos4ever said:
Think about how stupid this statement is:

If someone suddenly develops serious health issues after a satisfying, voluminous bowel movement, it is stupid to claim that the satisfying voluminous bowel movement had nothing to do with it when that has never been proven, especially when doctors have no idea what caused the sudden illness

In any event, no one ever said the vaccines had nothing to do with any of health issues.
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Just so you know, the CDC has stopped recording adverse reactions from the covid jab. Nevertheless, the government officials touting the accepted government line claim those bad events are rare, even if they do not know how many there are. Here is what they do know about some of the worst reactions they have seen:

www.cdc.gov

COVID-19 Vaccination

COVID-19 vaccines protect against COVID-19. Get safety info and more.
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov

  • Anaphylaxis after COVID-19 vaccination is rare and has occurred in approximately 2 to 5 people per million vaccinated in the United States. Severe allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis, can occur after any vaccination. If this occurs, vaccination providers can effectively and immediately treat the reaction. Learn more about COVID-19 vaccines and allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis.
  • Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) after Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen (J&J/Janssen) COVID-19 vaccination is rare. As of October 6, 2021, more than 15 million doses of the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine have been given in the United States. CDC and FDA identified 47 confirmed reports of people who got the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and later developed TTS. Women younger than 50 years old especially should be aware of the rare but increased risk of this adverse event. There are other COVID-19 vaccine options available for which this risk has not been seen. Learn more about J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS.
    • To date, two confirmed cases of TTS following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Moderna) have been reported to VAERS after more than 382 million doses of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines administered in the United States. Based on available data, there is not an increased risk for TTS after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination.
  • CDC and FDA are monitoring reports of Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS) in people who have received the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine. GBS is a rare disorder where the body’s immune system damages nerve cells, causing muscle weakness and sometimes paralysis. Most people fully recover from GBS, but some have permanent nerve damage. After more than 15 million J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine doses administered, there have been around 228 preliminary reports of GBS identified in VAERS as of October 6, 2021. These cases have largely been reported about 2 weeks after vaccination and mostly in men, many 50 years and older. CDC will continue to monitor for and evaluate reports of GBS occurring after COVID-19 vaccination and will share more information as it becomes available.
  • Myocarditis and pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. As of October 6, 2021, VAERS has received 1,640 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis among people ages 30 and younger who received COVID-19 vaccine. Most cases have been reported after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna), particularly in male adolescents and young adults. Through follow-up, including medical record reviews, CDC and FDA have confirmed 926 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis. CDC and its partners are investigating these reports to assess whether there is a relationship to COVID-19 vaccination. Learn more about COVID-19 vaccines and myocarditis.
  • Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 403 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through October 6, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 8,638 reports of death (0.0021%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets—which has caused deaths pdf icon[1.4 MB, 40 pages].

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