Far Better To Build Immune System than Count on Vaccines

expos4ever

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The number of provable lies about these shots is just staggering. Here's one, and it's a major lie: All spike proteins stay at the injection site.
From Reuters:

Research shows that spike proteins (here) remain stuck to the cell surface around the injection site and do not travel to other parts of the body via the bloodstream, they added. The 1% of the vaccine that does reach the bloodstream is destroyed by liver enzymes.
 

way 2 go

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From Reuters:

Research shows that spike proteins (here) remain stuck to the cell surface around the injection site and do not travel to other parts of the body via the bloodstream, they added. The 1% of the vaccine that does reach the bloodstream is destroyed by liver enzymes.
over 1 million serious injuries from the vax staying at the injection site 🤪


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marke

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Liar.

This data does not establish a cause and effect relationship between the vaccines and adverse events.
Why call someone a liar for suggesting the covid jabs have serious adverse effects, especially since nobody has effectively proven that to be a lie?
 

expos4ever

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Why call someone a liar for suggesting the covid jabs have serious adverse effects, especially since nobody has effectively proven that to be a lie?
It is basically impossible that you are so dumb as to think this objection of yours has merit. So more dishonesty from you.

When way 2 go claims a causal connection, he is lying - it is well known this data does not establish causation, but merely correlation.

Even if, repeat even if, all these adverse effects turn out to be caused by covid, way 2 go is still lying in the present since he does not know that there is such a cause and effect relationship.
 

way 2 go

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Taiwan death from COVID-19 vaccination exceeds death from COVID-19. Taiwan’s death toll from COVID-19 vaccination exceeds death toll from COVID-19 for the first time.

(Observer Network News) On October 7th, the death toll after vaccination in Taiwan reached 852, while the death toll after the COVID-19 was diagnosed was 844. The number of deaths after vaccination exceeded the number of confirmed deaths for the first time.

Sept 22.21
A total of 789 people in Taiwan died after receiving the new crown vaccine, mostly related to AstraZeneca vaccine
 

User Name

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Reuters does some really shoddy fact checking.

They claimed that both the Phizer and Moderna "vaccines" were fully safety tested, i.e. animal tested because they had "months" of animal testing. The facts are that all animal testing was skipped. It normally takes around 2 to 5 years to do animal testing and these "vaccines" were released in less than one year.
Trump called it "Operation Warp Speed." But that doesn't mean animal testing wasn't done:

"Each of the COVID-19 vaccines authorized for use in the U.S. have completed animal testing...
Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson each discussed their vaccines’ animal studies in press releases. In each of the vaccines’ animal testing trials, the vaccines showed they effectively limit COVID-19 contraction. In the Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson Emergency Use Authorization forms, the FDA referenced the results from each of the vaccines’ animal studies. The results from these animal studies were also published in peer-reviewed journals."


You are wrong again, as usual.
 

way 2 go

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Trump called it "Operation Warp Speed." But that doesn't mean animal testing wasn't done:

"Each of the COVID-19 vaccines authorized for use in the U.S. have completed animal testing...
Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson each discussed their vaccines’ animal studies in press releases. In each of the vaccines’ animal testing trials, the vaccines showed they effectively limit COVID-19 contraction. In the Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson Emergency Use Authorization forms, the FDA referenced the results from each of the vaccines’ animal studies. The results from these animal studies were also published in peer-reviewed journals."


You are wrong again, as usual.
You may wonder why two different animal species are used for testing at this stage. The reason is that no animal is exactly like a person in every way. A drug may not be toxic to rats but may be toxic to guinea pigs, and, by using two different species, the chances are greater that the toxicity of a drug will be discovered before it is ever given to a person.

This stage of safety testing usually takes about 4 years. Drug companies test for mutagenicity (ability to cause genetic changes) and carcinogenicity (ability to cause cancer). The drugs are also tested to confirm that they do not cause infertility (inability to have children) or birth defects. This stage of safety testing takes many years, because it may take a long period of time for animals to develop cancer or infertility as a result of a toxic drug.

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expos4ever

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(Observer Network News) On October 7th, the death toll after vaccination in Taiwan reached 852, while the death toll after the COVID-19 was diagnosed was 844. The number of deaths after vaccination exceeded the number of confirmed deaths for the first time.
What utter nonsense.

I cannot believe you are so dumb as to not understand that if a person dies after the vaccine, that does not mean the vaccine killed them. How many 90 years olds in the US will die within 6 months of seeing their grandchildren? Thousands, no doubt.

Did seeing the grandkids do these oldsters in?

The stupidity here is beyond belief.
 

User Name

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You may wonder why two different animal species are used for testing at this stage. The reason is that no animal is exactly like a person in every way. A drug may not be toxic to rats but may be toxic to guinea pigs, and, by using two different species, the chances are greater that the toxicity of a drug will be discovered before it is ever given to a person.

This stage of safety testing usually takes about 4 years. Drug companies test for mutagenicity (ability to cause genetic changes) and carcinogenicity (ability to cause cancer). The drugs are also tested to confirm that they do not cause infertility (inability to have children) or birth defects. This stage of safety testing takes many years, because it may take a long period of time for animals to develop cancer or infertility as a result of a toxic drug.
Read that again. It refers specifically to drugs, not vaccines.
 

way 2 go

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What utter nonsense.

I cannot believe you are so dumb as to not understand that if a person dies after the vaccine, that does not mean the vaccine killed them.
like how the wuflu didn't kill 366,000 in 2020 more like 6% of that

How many 90 years olds in the US will die within 6 months of seeing their grandchildren? Thousands, no doubt.

Did seeing the grandkids do these oldsters in?
So as high as these numbers are, they do NOT reflect all of Europe. The actual number in Europe who are reported dead or injured following COVID-19 shots would be much higher than what we are reporting here.

The EudraVigilance database reports that through September 25, 2021 there are 26,041 deaths and 2,448,362 injuries reported following injections of four experimental COVID-19 shots:



From the total of injuries recorded, almost half of them (1,176,130) are serious injuries.

The stupidity here is beyond belief.
confession through projection
 

ffreeloader

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like how the wuflu didn't kill 366,000 in 2020 more like 6% of that


So as high as these numbers are, they do NOT reflect all of Europe. The actual number in Europe who are reported dead or injured following COVID-19 shots would be much higher than what we are reporting here.

The EudraVigilance database reports that through September 25, 2021 there are 26,041 deaths and 2,448,362 injuries reported following injections of four experimental COVID-19 shots:



From the total of injuries recorded, almost half of them (1,176,130) are serious injuries.


confession through projection
Too bad truth means nothing to UN.
 
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