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A stupidity of Darwinism: "There was never a time when there were only two humans!"

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Or the Israelite religious leaders who created the creation story didn't know anything about what makes soil or even how large the planet was. When subsequent generations of the priest class claimed that books originally intended for religious instruction were "The Word of God", they created an insurmountable credibility problem going forward.

And according to this same theory, these same scientist who were able to go to the beginning of the 6 day creation event and find the soil with the decaying plant matter to feed the plants, they would also find the fossilized skeletal remains of all sorts of dinosaurs and creatures that lived in the stratified layers of earth. Were they to keep digging as we do today, they would discover what we discover today.

Before Moses wrote Genesis what scriptures were people using?

God gave Moses information that he could not get on his own.

You are a blasphemous unbeliever to the extreme.
 

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And according to this same theory, these same scientist who were able to go to the beginning of the 6 day creation event and find the soil with the decaying plant matter to feed the plants, they would also find the fossilized skeletal remains of all sorts of dinosaurs and creatures that lived in the stratified layers of earth. Were they to keep digging as we do today, they would discover what we discover today.
Yes, agreed once again.
 

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That is a claim of some in religion. It was used to reject the Son of God. In my opinion its a form of idolatry.
Your opinion is not worth a nickel.

I believe that Adam and Eve were incarnate celestial beings sent to replace the previous fallen administration of the "Crafty Beast" on a previously populated, very old earth. It would explain a LOT!
See!! I told you that you love fairy tales.

The ancient story of Adam was so old that by the time the Israelites were composing their story of origins, they just assumed that Adam was the first man and that the earth was created just prior to the appearance of these 2 full grown adults who spoke the language of the beast.

The devil was already fallen when he approached Eve and outflanked her.
You watch too much science fiction.

I'm going to go ahead and believe God.
 

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Your opinion is not worth a nickel.


See!! I told you that you love fairy tales.


You watch too much science fiction.

I'm going to go ahead and believe God.

Your opinion about my opinion is meaningless to me as well. I'm going to stick with common sense, all things considered. Its ironic that people who are stuck defending the Israelites pretentious history would ever call anything a fairy tale.
 

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Your opinion about my opinion is meaningless to me as well.
Fair enough.

I'm going to stick with common sense, all things considered.
"common sense" :rotfl:

Its ironic that people who are stuck defending the Israelites pretentious history would ever call anything a fairy tale.
Its ironic that people who believe in fantasy space ships complain about what others say.
 

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You are not just a fool, you're stupid. There's a saying... "Being stupid doesn't make you sin but sin does make you stupid." You're exhibit 1a of the truth of that statement.
By all means get back to us when you have an argument that justifies your assertions.

I ask you again, do we know with absolute scientific certainty that George Washington is dead?
What do you mean by absolute scientific certainty?

Let's say that a particular CEO has a mole on his board of directors who is leaking information to the press or to a competitor. Let's also say, just for fun, that you are that mole. The CEO, being a really smart guy has his suspicions that it might be you but needs evidence to prove it so he feeds you information about a new product including the fact that it will require the use of three cells of a new kind of battery. The next thing you know, PC Week is publishing an article about the new product and how it might impact the battery industry due to its use of three of these new battery cells.

Now, you've been friends with this CEO for your whole life, you grew up together, went to the same schools, both went out with Lisa Huntsaker during your Junior Year at Princeton and both got dumped by her after one date. You eat popcorn and drink beer on Sundays while watching NFL football games every weekend. Your best friends! There is just no way anyone would believe that you're the mole except not only are the mole but the CEO knows it for a scientific fact and there is exactly - EXACTLY - zero probability that it's anyone else because the new product is only going to need one regular battery cell that anyone can buy at Walmart and the only one who was told anything about the need for a three of a new kind of battery was you and you alone.
Who is Lisa Huntsaker?

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Stuu

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Is it a scientifically proven fact that it is possible to super heat water in a microwave by containing the water in a very smooth, new glass mug because there are no nucleation sites on the surface to provide a mechanism for bubbles to form?
That didn’t appear in your original statement, which was this:
At a given pressure, water boils at a specific temperature. True or False? That question has been answered, by science, without the need for disproving a counter claim. It asks an affirmative question and answers it. Under 1 bar of atmospheric pressure, does water boil at 100° C? Yes!

Can you reconcile those two claims?

There's not even any evidence for man made global warming nor is there any evidence for evolution! NONE!
You should keep watching then, because I hope soon to outline a fourth piece of evidence for common descent.

Thanks to the politicization of science!
I’d love to see the scientification of politics. You have not given a single argument point of any kind against evolution or anthropogenic climate change. You’ve only shared rage and unsupported opinion. Opinions offered without evidence are easily dismissed without evidence. It is you who is politicising science.

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I thought that you are UB.

It might as well be space ships. You're making all kinds of crazy claims and trying to call it "common sense". It's not.

The UB didn't come through a "space ship". It came like prophecy came to prophets, only there are multiple celestial authors and it s a massive revelatory work.

Aliens you think??? Like the 3 celestial beings who appeared to Abraham? Like the incarnate Melchizedek? Like Gabriel who suddenly appeared to Mary? Like Satan?

Do you read your Bible??? The entire book is about our relationship with invisible beings who mostly live somewhere out in space!
 

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Why split the response to one post into two posts? Just to waste time and bandwidth?

What do you mean by absolute scientific certainty?
You knew what I meant when you typed this question. That makes you a liar on top of everything else.

It means that there is EXACTLY zero probability that he is not dead. It means that no one could ever hope to find any evidence to the contrary because we know for a fact that there is no such evidence.


That didn’t appear in your original statement, which was this:

Can you reconcile those two claims?
You already have reconciled them, Stuu! I mean, are you really this dense?

THAT WAS THE WHOLE PLAN FROM THE BEGINNING YOU STUPID DOLT!!!!

I didn't expect you to come up with super heating the water in a microwave specifically, but I knew that you would try to find some kind of way to bring a counter example. It was predictable as the sunrise.

Which counter example you came up with doesn't matter. Any counter example you presented would do to disprove your own thesis! And it disproves it quite scientifically, I might add.

Would you like to try to back your problem up yet another step by trying to find a counter example to your first counter example?

You should keep watching then, because I hope soon to outline a fourth piece of evidence for common descent.
There is no such evidence. Evolution is all one gigantic collection of question begging stupidity.

I’d love to see the scientification of politics.
Me too! Although not in the way you mean it. You mean it in the opposite sense of what you've said, which is the world you live in right now. Not that it can't get much worse.

You have not given a single argument point of any kind against evolution or anthropogenic climate change.
I do not make attempts to disprove theories for which there is no evidence.

You’ve only shared rage and unsupported opinion.
Where do people get this "rage", nonsense?

I'm not even a little bit upset, never mind angry or anything remotely close to enraged.

As for unsupported opinions, I'm not here debating climate change or evolution. Why on Earth would anyone waste their time doing that with someone who won't even acknowledge that science has ever been used to prove anything? What grounds exist that would make such a discussion worth either my time or yours?

Opinions offered without evidence are easily dismissed without evidence. It is you who is politicising science.

Stuart
You really don't notice it when you contradict yourself like this do you? :rotfl:

If opinions offered without evidence were so easy for you to dismiss, you'd have dropped evolution decades ago and would have never picked up climate change in the first place. The fact that you buy into either of them really has nothing whatsoever to do with science, evidence or argument. It speaks more about your hatred of God than it does anything else. Your heart is looking for something to replace God with and so you find the biggest anti-God thing in sight and join the club that permits you entrance into their echo chamber of cherry picked "evidence" and question begging irrationalities.

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What the heck is a "UB"?

Urantia Book. Basically blasphemous new age nonsense that tears the Bible to shreds (by turning it all into metaphor) in an attempt to make it sound legitimate.

There's more to it than that, but don't waste your time with it.
 

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The UB didn't come through a "space ship". It came like prophecy came to prophets, only there are multiple celestial authors and it s a massive revelatory work.
It did not come from the Creator. It might have come from seducing spirits, perhaps fallen angels.

Aliens you think??? Like the 3 celestial beings who appeared to Abraham? Like the incarnate Melchizedek? Like Gabriel who suddenly appeared to Mary? Like Satan?
You're not helping support your UB nonsense. Maybe you could just be a Moron. They also have strange spirits.

Do you read your Bible??? The entire book is about our relationship with invisible beings who mostly live somewhere out in space!
:rotfl:

It's about our relationship with God, and not your UB devil spirits.
 

Caino

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It did not come from the Creator. It might have come from seducing spirits, perhaps fallen angels.


You're not helping support your UB nonsense. Maybe you could just be a Moron. They also have strange spirits.


:rotfl:

It's about our relationship with God, and not your UB devil spirits.

Thats what your mental ken folks in Jerusalem said about Jesus and the other prophets as well. Anything new must be killed by moral cowards.
 

Clete

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Urantia Book. Basically blasphemous new age nonsense that tears the Bible to shreds (by turning it all into metaphor) in an attempt to make it sound legitimate.

There's more to it than that, but don't waste your time with it.

Oh no! There was one of those nuts on another website I used to post on!

How in the world can anyone buy into such utterly complete nonsense? :bang:
 

Caino

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Oh no! There was one of those nuts on another website I used to post on!

How in the world can anyone buy into such utterly complete nonsense? :bang:

Ask the Jews why Jesus isn't their Messiah. They look at you with the same amused skepticism. Religion hardens hearts and minds, they killed or abused every descent prophet of truth sent to them!
 
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