Jesus CANNOT be Jehovah/YHVH God
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awww cute...
Not as cute as yours following jewish claims and false witness that Yahushua changed the customs Moses delivered...Acts 6:13-14 I mean do you follow a god whose laws are not perfect and need changing?
Because abolishing what gives you authority is not good governance ya dig? I mean Lord of London would not abolish London right? Or Lord of the Rings melt them down to a belt buckle aammmiriiite?
now that’s what I’m talking about!!!! Indeed a sabbatismos seventh day rest all day...
As well He should as He was there when the church in the wilderness was told to remember it...and that it was also given to the strangers already present
Given Sabbath before the Law at Sinai actually...
As He was there at creation when He chose to make all in six days and rest the seventh...yup Sabbath does prove His authorship and authority...neat eh?
And He remains God still as does His Sabbath...and for us...
Us men not for women...it was made for man and not dispensed to woman...they are raptured from it...LOL
Yes yes peer pressure is big with you...following the crowd having fanboyz and protective cliques...sticking to the traditions of man...
Understood...
You sadly demonstrate exactly the errors of which you are falsely accusing me.
You are hiding your heart from the truth, because your errors make you so uncomfortable.
You have been brainwashed into believing something that is ONLY inferred, IF you accept a false premise to begin with. In a SENSE, that's a child like, "little child", behavior .... in that MANY children believe the lies of their parents regarding Santa Clause.
Your theory that "Jesus is God in the Flesh" is as real as Santa Clause.
Oh good grief...that He is NOT His IMMORTAL Father does not make Him NOT God eternal in the flesh...
That He died is because He was forsaken...His Father withdrew His Spirit...something not of His Own begotten will but of His Father’s...OUR Father’s will be done...
Just like the donkey spoke with the indwelling Spirit and then did not...as His Spirit left
The bronze serpent “healed” and then did not...became an idol as His Spirit had left
We too are gods became like one of them Gen 3:22...but then disobedient we were barred from access to tree of life...prevented from living forever...as obedient we were to do...
Is why He called only those that do the will of OUR Father His brothers...we are His brothers...to live eternally but not IMMORTAL
WizardofOz
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Absolutely no way he was intojoy. :nono:
genuineoriginal
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I have no problem accepting that verse, since Jesus already said that the Father dwells in Him.
John 14:10 10 [JESUS]Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.[/JESUS] 11 [JESUS]Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.[/JESUS] |
Trinitarians are not able to accept that God sent His only begotten Son into the world because they believe the Son of God is God.
genuineoriginal
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Every verse that says that Jesus is the Son of God proves that Jesus is NOT God.
The burden of proof is on the Trinitarians.
Trinitarians have try to prove that 'Jesus is "the Son of" God' really means 'Jesus is God'.
genuineoriginal
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Trying to define God by your opinions of what He should be and your opinions of what He should do is how most of the heresies entered into Christianity.
God is who He is and Christians should stop trying to change Him.
For me it started when they took a jewish false witness Acts 6:13-14 that Yahushua changed the customs Moses delivered and ran with it...and rebuilt the wall which He tore down betwee jew and goyim...
Rome its Christendom wishes to divorce itself forever from its “jewish” root and changed times and laws to fabricate a new religion a new way...the trinity was all part of that rejection of “the Way” found in Acts
genuineoriginal
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Yes, I know this.
However, God has been working to bring back true first-century Christianity.
The belief in the prophecies for Israel found in Dispensationalism is a part of bringing true Christianity back to "The Way".
Also in the mix are home churches, the Charismatic/Pentecostal beliefs, and the Messianic Judaism movement.
HalleluYah
yikes and ouch...I disagree that desire to rebuild that temple is exactly Babylon’s tower...to supplant Him...but we can fine tune this later
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sadly mega church low Protestant Church is exactly counter reformation and paving the way to return to the first beast back home to Rome
here too a deep strain of Zionism and support for all things jewish an not Yahushua...in fact many conversions into judaism instead...
But yes the times are interesting and the Spirit seeks obedient ones to bless as Peter preached no distinction between jew and goyim all grafted into Israel as per Paul...
HalleluYah May He lead a to Him His way...
genuineoriginal
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Yes, I know that there are many problems that have risen with each of the movements that lead back to first-century Christianity.
But, if you look at first-century Christianity as recorded in the Bible, the problems that have risen are a reflection of the same problems that the Apostles had to combat in the first-century.
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That's right, GO, you and the others need to stop trying to change God into your own image.
God declares in His word that He is triune. Stop trying to overwrite His word.
Got a name and a throne for the Father...got a name and a throne for the Son begotten
Don’t have a name or throne or point of origin for the Spirit...
genuineoriginal
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I am relying on what the Bible actually states, not some doctrine of man.
Try to figure out who did the sending and who was sent in this verse:
1 John 4:9 9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. |
No Trinitarian has been able to show any verse from the Bible where God has declared that He is triune in the past 1600 years (since the creation of the Trinitarian doctrine).
What makes you think you will be any different?
glorydaz
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No, you are not able to accept that God is Triune.
The Word was with God and was God. John 1:1
He CAME OUT from God and became flesh. John 1:14
John 16:27 For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.
Same with the Holy Spirit. A TRIUNE GOD sends forth the Son and the Spirit.
John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
Since his IMMORTAL Father is "the ONLY true God" ... according to Jesus, you would be wrong.
This is true, but incomplete. Jesus also died because he was a MORTAL human being.clefty said:
His God resurrected him, AND changed him from mortal to immortal.
genuineoriginal
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The Bible does not say God is Triune.
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