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  • Bright Raven
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    Let's get back on topic. Is the Trinity biblical and is it taught in the Bible?

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  • Trump Gurl
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    Originally posted by CherubRam View Post

    Trinitarianism is taught in the bible if you accept the Catholic insertions as opposed to the original script.
    lol right. And Trump is a secret Russian agent too. lol

    Those darn Catholics, always sneaking stuff in. Of course you would know right? because you have a super duper secret original Bible that nobody knows about. lol. Because if you had the same Bible as everyone else then how would you know!

    Nobody snuck anything in Mr. Rogers. God is the Holy Trinity. That is just a fact.

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  • Clete
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    Originally posted by NWL View Post

    As you have said to others 'Saying it doesn't make it so', it is both pointless and pitiful of you to claim that I've demonstrated nothing, as what I demonstrated proved the thing things you said to be false and inconsistent. Unless you are able to back up what you claim then your assertions are empty and prove nothing.
    I haven't merely made the accusation. There is an entire thread here for the entire world to read, a good portion of which I have written myself, not that I would have needed to!

    I'm constantly amazed how people just seem to forget that these threads don't just vanish into non-existence simply because we've come more than two or three posts from where someone got their entire theological construct smashed into rubble.

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  • NWL
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    Originally posted by Clete View Post
    You've demonstrated nothing but that you've been fully indocttrinated and are incapable of independant thought.
    As you have said to others 'Saying it doesn't make it so', it is both pointless and pitiful of you to claim that I've demonstrated nothing, as what I demonstrated proved the thing things you said to be false and inconsistent. Unless you are able to back up what you claim then your assertions are empty and prove nothing.

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  • 7djengo7
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    Originally posted by NWL View Post
    You believe you have the truth, I have demonstrated once again that you do not,
    To whom have you demonstrated what you've asserted? Obviously you've not demonstrated it to Clete. Obviously you've not demonstrated it to me. Obviously you've not demonstrated it to any Trinitarian.

    I guess all that is left to you is that you can pretend to somehow find satisfaction in telling yourself that you've demonstrated to yourself your anti-Christ falsehood.

    Originally posted by NWL View Post
    anyone who has an honest heart that reads our posts will see what you said is in error and what I have said is consistent with scripture, and that my friend is all that really matters.
    By your phrase, "anyone who has an honest heart", all you mean is anyone who is, as you are, a thrall of Satan through his anti-Christ, Russellite, Arian Watchtower Society.


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  • WonderfulLordJesus
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    Originally posted by Clete View Post

    You've demonstrated nothing but that you've been fully indocttrinated and are incapable of independant thought.
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    Get some Watchtower Brain Wash detergent today! Simply wash, rinse and repeat, and you'll be thanking God-lite, aka Jesus, for that whitewashed grave clean!

    (Also try our new Brain Wash Plus, with ScriptureGuard!)

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  • Clete
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    Originally posted by NWL View Post

    And you make the error of thinking I thought that you cared what I think. You believe you have the truth,
    Your lies are like glass.

    You care you'd not have said what you said.

    I have demonstrated once again that you do not, truth does not care about feelings, thoughts or emotions, what you have written goes contrary to the truth, anyone who has an honest heart that reads our posts will see what you said is in error and what I have said is consistent with scripture, and that my friend is all that really matters.
    You've demonstrated nothing but that you've been fully indocttrinated and are incapable of independant thought.

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  • NWL
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    Originally posted by WonderfulLordJesus View Post

    Did somebody ask you why you do anything? I assure you, I didn't. I already know bears dump in the woods, too. And emotional? LOL! You actually think you have any such power over me? If hell is sleep, and if I were to read more than a fragment of the inane and endless blather false prophets like you write, correction, disciples of false prophets like you write, as you have approximately zero creativity of your own, Charles Russell and the Watchtower Society in, garbage out, like clockwork, in any case, if I paid you half a mind, I'd be soul sleeping in hell, now. You and all your ilk just bore the hades out of me and make a landfill of message boards. And you know why? Because nobody really wants to hear your crap, in the real world. It has to be so desperate for you cult guys that you can't even discuss it among yourselves, that you need to be trolling fundamentalist Christians, but so very blind that you are never, ever going to pervert a child of the Spirit of Christ, with your silly, stupid and evil doctrines that contradict the clear word of God. In fact, is that duh or what? Have you noticed nobody is buying what you're selling? (Of course not...) I do feel a little sorry for you, but that's about all she wrote. Honestly. Emotional? Yawn.

    As to growing up, no thanks to that, also, as the Lord Jesus, that is the great I am of the burning bush, the Word of God, Almighty God and Jehovah of the Old Testament, the eternal God, Jesus Christ, that came from eternity and down to man, that we not all be utter lying fools, as too many are yet content to be, said thus:

    Matthew 18:2-3 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, and said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

    Matthew 19:13-14 Then were there brought unto him little children, that he should put his hands on them, and pray: and the disciples rebuked them. But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.


    That's got to trump being a full grown devil, a proponent of horrible lies, a prophet of the doctrines of deceitful men and women, which are the doctrines of demons and hell. Just sayin'.
    'You're not emotional' says the one who just wrote out an entire paragraph groaning about a person and religion they apparently do not care about. You accuse me of much, yet do not bring a single shred of evidence, just as your previous claim was empty so too is this response. Believe it or not, as a fully grown-up adult you can simply ignore the post, threads, and forums you cannot bear but read and look at, I hope you do and find peace as I really do not have time to deal with your issues which aren't real issues.

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  • Bright Raven
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    Originally posted by NWL View Post

    And you make the error of thinking I thought that you cared what I think. You believe you have the truth, I have demonstrated once again that you do not, truth does not care about feelings, thoughts or emotions, what you have written goes contrary to the truth, anyone who has an honest heart that reads our posts will see what you said is in error and what I have said is consistent with scripture, and that my friend is all that really matters.
    You consistently err in God's Word.

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  • NWL
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    Originally posted by Clete View Post

    You make the error of thinking that I care what you think.
    And you make the error of thinking I thought that you cared what I think. You believe you have the truth, I have demonstrated once again that you do not, truth does not care about feelings, thoughts or emotions, what you have written goes contrary to the truth, anyone who has an honest heart that reads our posts will see what you said is in error and what I have said is consistent with scripture, and that my friend is all that really matters.

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  • WonderfulLordJesus
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    Originally posted by Clete View Post

    You make the error of thinking that I care what you think.
    Really. I'm just beside myself, too.

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  • WonderfulLordJesus
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    Originally posted by Bright Raven View Post

    Get over it.
    Another optimist...

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  • WonderfulLordJesus
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    Originally posted by NWL View Post

    There is a reason why I'm able to make such a statement, I have clearly demonstrated to Clete and others how is reasoning is mediocre. Your statement, however, which is childish as it seems to be an emotional response, is empty as you've nowhere demonstrated what you've claimed. People need to grow up.
    Did somebody ask you why you do anything? I assure you, I didn't. I already know bears dump in the woods, too. And emotional? LOL! You actually think you have any such power over me? If hell is sleep, and if I were to read more than a fragment of the inane and endless blather false prophets like you write, correction, disciples of false prophets like you write, as you have approximately zero creativity of your own, Charles Russell and the Watchtower Society in, garbage out, like clockwork, in any case, if I paid you half a mind, I'd be soul sleeping in hell, now. You and all your ilk just bore the hades out of me and make a landfill of message boards. And you know why? Because nobody really wants to hear your crap, in the real world. It has to be so desperate for you cult guys that you can't even discuss it among yourselves, that you need to be trolling fundamentalist Christians, but so very blind that you are never, ever going to pervert a child of the Spirit of Christ, with your silly, stupid and evil doctrines that contradict the clear word of God. In fact, is that duh or what? Have you noticed nobody is buying what you're selling? (Of course not...) I do feel a little sorry for you, but that's about all she wrote. Honestly. Emotional? Yawn.

    As to growing up, no thanks to that, also, as the Lord Jesus, that is the great I am of the burning bush, the Word of God, Almighty God and Jehovah of the Old Testament, the eternal God, Jesus Christ, that came from eternity and down to man, that we not all be utter lying fools, as too many are yet content to be, said thus:

    Matthew 18:2-3 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, and said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

    Matthew 19:13-14 Then were there brought unto him little children, that he should put his hands on them, and pray: and the disciples rebuked them. But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.


    That's got to trump being a full grown devil, a proponent of horrible lies, a prophet of the doctrines of deceitful men and women, which are the doctrines of demons and hell. Just sayin'.
    Last edited by WonderfulLordJesus; March 10, 2020, 12:13 PM.

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  • Clete
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    Originally posted by NWL View Post

    Arrogance really is your downfall Clete, let me show you how you're wrong once again, and watch how you will once again run away claiming you won't converse with anyone who you believe to be part of a cult as your excuse.

    Remember when I showed you the below image stating "I keep a picture of the below in my bible as I often have to teach Trinitarians what they themselves are meant to believe about the trinity", you are about to be a prime example of this feat it action, as you do not understand what you yourself are meant to believe, others will look and see your lack of ability to defend your beliefs.

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    The Trinity doctrine teaches that the Father is NOT the Son and the Son NOT the Father as the above image shows, however, Isaiah 9:6 states the Son, namely Jesus, is the "eternal Father", the verse contradicts the trinity doctrine! You have no clue as to why Jesus is referred to as the "eternal Father" as you do not know the truth. You use John 10:30 to try and show Jesus and the Father being one as if this somehow explains why Jesus is specifically called the "Father" despite him not being the Father. Jesus and the Father being one has NOTHING to do with them being part of any trinity, how do we know this, because Jesus asked that his followers be one with him and the Father the same way he and the Father were one with each other, so they called all be one, "that they [my followers] may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us" (John 17:21). How else do we know John 10:30 is not in relation to any trinity, because the trinity teaches that three are one, and not that two are one, which would be the case if the statement of "I and the Father are one" was in relation to the trinity.

    You once asked me the question of "What does the doctrine of the Trinity teach", if I answered you and said "there is one God, the Father and Jesus the Son" you would have laughed your *** off as I would be leaving out the third person of the trinity, yet that is what you claim Jesus answered when he said "I and the Father are one", the argument is not consistent. Jesus and the Father being once meant one in unity and not one in identity, hence why he asked the Father that his followers be one the same way they are one, any claim contrary to this would be unwittingly implying Christ-followers are also God since they are also one with him.

    Jesus is a mighty God, no Jehovah's witness denies this, we simply deny that he is the "one God" as the "one God" in the bible is clearly described as being the Father and Father alone (see 1 Cor 8:6). The context and language of Isaiah 9:6 denies that he possessed the epithets that were ascribed to him, it states "For a child has been born to us...His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace", I cannot say about the Queen of England, "her name will be called the Queen of England" as that would imply she is not currently the Queen of England, the correct wording would be "her name is the Queen of England". Likewise, if the Son is God eternal then he would have already been the Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father and Prince of Peace, as seen by the language of Isaiah 9:6 this is not the case.

    Your reasoning ability is mediocre at best, the same way it would be foolish and stupid of me to claim your "entire theological construct is destroyed" by what I've said above, it is stupid and arrogant of you to think you have bested an entire theological construct with your poor reasoning and comprehending skill.

    If you give a reply to one of my posts -be it directly or indirectly- do not be so naive to think I will not respond in kind. Let's wait and see how you mock, scoff and show your amazement as you excuse yourself for not having the ability to give a reply once again.
    You make the error of thinking that I care what you think.

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  • NWL
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    Originally posted by Bright Raven View Post

    Jesus is God. Get over it.
    I agree with you, he is God, he's simply not the "one God" of the bible, namely the Father. What's the point in coming to a forum that houses a number of people with differing understanding of the scriptures, creating a thread in which you yourself encourage, "Is the Trinity biblical? Is the Trinity taught in the Bible? Forgetting any type of denominationalism, is the Trinity taught in the Bible?" (post 2,3 on this thread), all said by you, and yet when others give a reply you state "Jesus is God. Get over it", the irony.

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