heir
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How very Catholic of you
ECT What's MAD?
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heir
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1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV is the power of God to save you when you believe it.
Doom
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Nope, not a "red'herring", but rather it is impossible to take seriously the biblical doctrinal views of anyone who has no idea who Jesus is, and thinks that all men will eventually be saved. You are outside the faith.
heir
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Try and keep up, Nang.
There was a gospel that was being preached in M, M, L and John (the gospel of the kingdom) and it did NOT include the fact that "Christ died for our sins"!
So much for your "one gospel" theory.
csuguy
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This is a red-herring - you looked for a way out of answering the questions I posed to you, because you know my evaluation of MAD is correct. Rather than address the issue at hand, you looked for an excuse not to talk to me anymore. Sad. :yawn:
And for the record - I didn't say that all men will be saved. I said that we are judged by our actions - not the set of doctrines we subscribe to.
heir
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Doom
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You lack the capacity to evaluate anything concerning "MAD" or non-MAD, because you don't know who Jesus is, and are essentially in a Universalism cult. Until you repent of your false religious system and your false god, you carry as much worth in any meaningful conversation as meshak, keypurr, LA, or oatmeal.
heir
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LA liar
heir
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You're spoiled
Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
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Colossians 2:20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,
csuguy
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Way to write-off your opponents so that you don't have to address their logical, scriptural arguments against your view. To put the cherry on top - you even write me off for holding to the scriptures with regards Christs relation to God.
Whatever it takes, huh?
heir
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He can start by studying what the therefore is there for.
Doom
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Again, your whining and complaining about this is pointless. Although you might show respect to say... a Scientologist, a Muslim, a Mormon, or a Hare-Krishna about Biblical doctrine, I would only do that knowing that they are actually interested in the truth. It is apparent when they are not teachable, but only concerned with spreading their false religion to corrupt the minds of others. You are worthy of no respect, as it is obvious that you are a wolf looking to deceive as many sheep as possible with your convoluted and less than forthright message.
If you really believed the nonsense you preach, you would not try and hide behind it by carefully choosing your words when speaking about the identity of Jesus. Wolves hate it when they are exposed. You are no exception.
heir
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As concerning this sect, we know that every where it is spoken against. It's nothing new.
what nang calls the wisdom of God 1 Corinthians 2:6-8 KJV
The Spirit beareth witness otherwise (Romans 8:16-17 KJV).
1 Corinthians 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
heir
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Who's Johnny?
heir
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Have you trusted the Lord for salvation believing 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV? If not, you are a believe not-er (2 Corinthians 4:3-4 KJV).
sad for you, yes.
God already had mercy. You reject it.
Ephesians 2:4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
Ephesians 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved
Ephesians 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
Ephesians 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Ephesians 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Get saved, meshak
csuguy
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As Christians, we should show respect to all people by default, even if they aren't there to learn about Christ. Or how do you plan to reach people? By insulting them? Paul tells us to become all things to all people that we might win some over to Christ.
And I have been very straight-forward in all my beliefs, including Christs identity. I hold to the scriptures, not councils. You might have trouble understanding my position - but that is due to your lack of familiarity with the scriptures rather than because I haven't been straight-forward. Unlike some people, I don't resort to red-herrings and such to avoid discussing the matter at hand.
At any rate, you have made it clear that you refuse to discuss MAD any further - you would rather lower yourself to red-herrings and personal attacks than to provide honest answers to questions about your beliefs, knowing that they are indefensible. Good day.
Doom
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I have, and will answer any question among those who are in a position to ask - you are not. It is impossible to discuss the Jesus of the Bible with someone who thinks He is someone else entirely, and who thinks the gospel is something it is not. I know, you don't get that, but it is true nonetheless.
If you want to ask me questions about who Jesus is, I will oblige your sincere interest, but I will not throw pearls before a swine who is simply here to trample the truth underfoot. Until you know HIM, you know nothing.
And btw... don't pretend to be a Christian, you are not. A Christian knows and confesses who Jesus is, and they don't make Him out to be someone else.
musterion
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Zakly. You cannot possibly have a rational conversation if each side is using the same terminology with different definitions...or if one side's mind is already firmly made up and they're just doting about questions they really don't want answered.
Have you trusted the Lord for salvation believing 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV? If not, you are a believe not-er (2 Corinthians 4:3-4 KJV).
sad for you, yes.
God already had mercy. You reject it.
Ephesians 2:4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
Ephesians 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved
Ephesians 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
Ephesians 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Ephesians 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Get saved, meshak
She should stop "preaching" and get saved!