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bybee

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You sure? The treatment of women has much improved in our culture while more religiously devout cultures continue to exploit and degrade woman as the norm.

And yet sex slave rings are flourishing wherein young boys and girls are brought here from third world countries and used for the sexual gratification of American men.
 

bybee

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There are no forced abortions. Just maximum choice about a biological process within the bodies of women.

While it can be misused and women mistreated due to porn, like most things it's fine in moderation. I do believe participants need to sign off on informed consent (education risks associated with it)and condoms need to be mandatory.

Pornography, like mind altering drugs, spousal abuse, child abuse, among other noxious behaviors, are not "fine in moderation".
They must be exposed for what they are, debasing the human condition which may lead to the destruction of body, mind and spirit.
People will do as they please.
But, we must fight the good fight and expose these behaviors for what they are and the human destruction they cause.
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And yet sex slave rings are flourishing wherein young boys and girls are brought here from third world countries and used for the sexual gratification of American men.

No offense but what does that have to do with ending misogyny?
 

bybee

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No offense but what does that have to do with ending misogyny?

Misogyny is a mind set of superiority and power. I was extrapolating that mind set to the use and abuse of children.
You are correct they are two separate, but I think, connected issues.
 

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And yet sex slave rings are flourishing wherein young boys and girls are brought here from third world countries and used for the sexual gratification of American men.
What percentage of th US population is involved in that? Now what percentage of women in Afghanistan are domestically abused? What percentage of women are victims of gang rape
or honor killing in Pakistan?

I am quite sure you would have found OJ innocent because you do not seem to have a basic grasp on the magnitude of numbers either.
 

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Pornography, like mind altering drugs, spousal abuse, child abuse, among other noxious behaviors, are not "fine in moderation".
They must be exposed for what they are, debasing the human condition which may lead to the destruction of body, mind and spirit.
People will do as they please.
But, we must fight the good fight and expose these behaviors for what they are and the human destruction they cause.
T
I think you're over-stating it a bit.

A lot of pornography is as you say, but not all of it is. There is nothing harmful about images of human beings in sexually attractive poses, in themselves. I think the harm comes when the images are made to deliberately imply sexual exploitation or abuse. Because then they create an implication that images of exploitation and abuse are as acceptable as non-exploitive sexual imagery, and they aren't.

Just as sexuality is not harmful in itself, but only becomes harmful when we exploit and abuse other people or ourselves through it, the same is true of sexual imagery. Some of the greatest images in art history depict or imply human sexuality, and they are certainly not harmful to us. At the same time, most of what we call 'pornography' is socially and individual harmful. And it certainly isn't 'art'.

But I think it's important to differentiate accurately, and not confuse anything with nude imagery in it as evil, or as pornography.
 

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You can not make the leap or see it perhaps because you can not imagine such a sudden or drastic upheaval of law. Nor could I!
It isn't that I can't imagine it. I can. I can also imagine our sun going supernova, but I don't (as I said elsewhere to you) plan my day around it or find the improbable estimation reasonable. It certainly isn't supported by what's happened since we've become much more permissive among adults. It's gone the other way.

And if we get to the point where we're upturning the foundation of civil and criminal law, I think we're going to have more pressing problems, like survival.

However, I have previously defined the jump/leap/occurence as a SLOW process like abortion.
Except there's no evidence for that. It's one of those common sense assumptions/leaps that is mistaken for a number of good reasons and I've noted them prior.

Just like some could argue that homosexuality evolved from the closet to "outside the closet".
Laws about homosexuality are failing because they were essentially bad laws relative to a secular compact. That is, like laws restricting the sale of alcohol on Sunday, they managed to survive because most everyone (and everyone in power) agreed to them and they weren't challenged as being an imposition of particular religious belief on the state.

Granted I think some of the homosexual forced outing was due to the high percentage of AIDS cases and well the most assured death sentence associated to it.
I think AIDS actually, eventually, made homosexuals more sympathetic figures in society and has a little to do with their empowerment. It also galvanized a community with a great deal of economic and social clout.

For instance, a is ok, b is iffy....some have argued for reduction of charges or sought and found a sympathetic jury to acquit. Also, you darn good and well there are always "exceptions" to rules, you know that legal gray area such as the mental capacity of an average 14 year old girl vs. the mental capacity of a 25 year old person with below 70 IQ.
I think there's almost always an exception, a tricky bit of business to consider, as you put forward here. The law can on occasion find exception, but the rule remains. By way of example, you aren't allowed to race around at eighty miles an hour, but if you're heading to the hospital.

TBC, Jack wants to play. :D
 

bybee

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I think you're over-stating it a bit.

A lot of pornography is as you say, but not all of it is. There is nothing harmful about images of human beings in sexually attractive poses, in themselves. I think the harm comes when the images are made to deliberately imply sexual exploitation or abuse. Because then they create an implication that images of exploitation and abuse are as acceptable as non-exploitive sexual imagery, and they aren't.

Just as sexuality is not harmful in itself, but only becomes harmful when we exploit and abuse other people or ourselves through it, the same is true of sexual imagery. Some of the greatest images in art history depict or imply human sexuality, and they are certainly not harmful to us. At the same time, most of what we call 'pornography' is socially and individual harmful. And it certainly isn't 'art'.

But I think it's important to differentiate accurately, and not confuse anything with nude imagery in it as evil, or as pornography.

Good points!
For instance I have been privileged to see,in person, the statue of "David".
He is magnificent. He is a tribute to the human body.
Nude imagery is not the problem. Exploitation of the vulnerable is a serious problem.
Glazed eyed, slack-jawed, over heated yokels sex crazed over someone else's daughter who is being forced into the sex trade is a major problem.
It is happening on the streets of my home town and yours.
 

bybee

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What percentage of th US population is involved in that? Now what percentage of women in Afghanistan are domestically abused? What percentage of women are victims of gang rape
or honor killing in Pakistan?

I am quite sure you would have found OJ innocent because you do not seem to have a basic grasp on the magnitude of numbers either.

I did some research on spousal and child abuse in America. It was so horrible I couldn't continue.
My Aunt was a social worker. She had to use an alias because of death threats by irate men who would not brook interference with the hideous abuse they visited on their families.
Your sureness is misplaced.
I have read Ayann Hersi Ali's book.
 

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The TheologyOnline.com TOPIC OF THE DAY for February 4th, 2013 06:00 AM


toldailytopic: Now that homosexuality has become socially and legally acceptable what will the next perversion to be forced on the culture?



Perverts are pushing for Pansexuality--a protective umbrella for thier perverted behaviors--but they must reach that goal with stepping stones. The next stepping stone is the 'normalization' of pedophilia--namely pederasty. That will be first done by removing it from the list of paraphilias and listing it as another sexual orientation that cannot be changed. Another angle of attack will be lowering the age of consent.
 

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I did some research on spousal and child abuse in America. It was so horrible I couldn't continue.
My Aunt was a social worker. She had to use an alias because of death threats by irate men who would not brook interference with the hideous abuse they visited on their families.
Your sureness is misplaced.
I have read Ayann Hersi Ali's book.

Miss bybee, I do believe you gots to compare the numbers to draw conclusions. So sorry you got squeamish and could not view tha facts. Here let me tell you the numbers and we will see how you interpret them: US Domestic violence against women is 22 %; afghanistan 87%.
 

bybee

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Miss bybee, I do believe you gots to compare the numbers to draw conclusions. So sorry you got squeamish and could not view tha facts. Here let me tell you the numbers and we will see how you interpret them: US Domestic violence against women is 22 %; afghanistan 87%.

Thank you for your concern. I did view the facts. That is why I got squeamish.:cry:
I live here, not in Afghanistan.
My chances of making a difference regarding the behavior of Islamic fundamentalists is slim to none.
I can and do support women's shelters here in my community.
 

Uberpod1

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Thank you for your concern. I did view the facts. That is why I got squeamish.:cry:
I live here, not in Afghanistan.
My chances of making a difference regarding the behavior of Islamic fundamentalists is slim to none.
I can and do support women's shelters here in my community.

And you make it a point to claim that there is a correlation between focusing on science (rather than religious principles) and the maltreatment of women; When the exact opposite is demonstrable.
 
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LKmommy

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Perverts are pushing for Pansexuality--a protective umbrella for thier perverted behaviors--but they must reach that goal with stepping stones. The next stepping stone is the 'normalization' of pedophilia--namely pederasty. That will be first done by removing it from the list of paraphilias and listing it as another sexual orientation that cannot be changed. Another angle of attack will be lowering the age of consent.
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Quincy

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Perverts are pushing for Pansexuality--a protective umbrella for thier perverted behaviors--but they must reach that goal with stepping stones. The next stepping stone is the 'normalization' of pedophilia--namely pederasty. That will be first done by removing it from the list of paraphilias and listing it as another sexual orientation that cannot be changed. Another angle of attack will be lowering the age of consent.

Pansexuality isn't all that different than bisexuality though. The difference is that pansexuals find, along with men and women, intersex people and some transsexuals attractive. Pansexuals don't care about gender or sex but they are not considered Paraphilia. Perhaps that is the term you meant? There are certainly some groups pushing for paraphilia to be normalized but as many have mentioned in the thread, there is little reason to suspect it will ever happen. :e4e:
 

GuySmiley

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Polygamy is next, and it’s already started. I think it’s the natural step after the homo's redefine marriage. I think pedophilia will be accepted before bestiality, because we would never want to hurt animals.
 

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We better stop building houses along the shore because before long we will be building them in the water and then where would we be? All wet?
 
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