toldailytopic: Now that homosexuality has become socially and legally acceptable what

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toldailytopic: Now that homosexuality has become socially and legally acceptable what will the next perversion to be forced on the culture?






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Is it OK that I don't even want to think about that?
 

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I am not quite sure I even agree that the premise of your question is accurate. While homosexuals may have equal rights under the law, I certainly do not agree that it is socially acceptable in all places. I will not allow it in my house. And I don't think the courts can force me too either. Well at least I hope not.
 

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I'm wondering why allowing adults freedom to do as they wish, if they don't bother other people, is "forcing" anything on anyone.

How do you "force" liberty on people? A contradiction in terms, it seems.
 

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toldailytopic: Now that homosexuality has become socially and legally acceptable what will the next perversion to be forced on the culture?


Sympathy for adults who want to have sex with children ie. "....but I was born this way, accept me and my perversions."
 

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Sympathy for adults who want to have sex with children ie. "....but I was born this way, accept me and my perversions."

Sorry, LK, but that domino theory just doesn't work.

The laws that protect children have been in play and strengthening since our founding. In fact, despite the so called sexual revolution, where attitudes about sex in the culture changed dramatically, the laws relating to protecting children actually got stronger.

What's changed in this country is that we've become less involved in the moral choices of other adults that don't demonstrably impinge on our own rights and freedoms. However you feel about that it has nothing to do with pedophilia, which is a capacity/consent issue. NAMBLA has been trying to soften the fringe on that for decades and no one is buying in.

And with increased scientific understanding relating to that capacity/consent, that protection and the argument from experience has been underscored and is in no danger of amelioration. In fact, you couldn't alter it without altering the foundation of both criminal and civil law in a way that would work clear and present danger to the integrity and stability of the compact.

Best guess? I suspect polygamy might be next. You could make many of the same arguments and some of the counters would be missing against it.
 

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Sorry, LK, but that domino theory just doesn't work.

The laws that protect children have been in play and strengthening since our founding. In fact, despite the so called sexual revolution, where attitudes about sex in the culture changed dramatically, the laws relating to protecting children actually got stronger.

What's changed in this country is that we've become less involved in the moral choices of other adults that don't demonstrably impinge on our own rights and freedoms. However you feel about that it has nothing to do with pedophilia, which is a capacity/consent issue. NAMBLA has been trying to soften the fringe on that for decades and no one is buying in.

And with increased scientific understanding relating to that capacity/consent, that protection and the argument from experience has been underscored and is in no danger of amelioration. In fact, you couldn't alter it without altering the foundation of both criminal and civil law in a way that would work clear and present danger to the integrity and stability of the compact.

Best guess? I suspect polygamy might be next. You could make many of the same arguments and some of the counters would be missing against it.

^ This ...
 

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Sorry, LK, but that domino theory just doesn't work.

The laws that protect children have been in play and strengthening since our founding. In fact, despite the so called sexual revolution, where attitudes about sex in the culture changed dramatically, the laws relating to protecting children actually got stronger.

What's changed in this country is that we've become less involved in the moral choices of other adults that don't demonstrably impinge on our own rights and freedoms. However you feel about that it has nothing to do with pedophilia, which is a capacity/consent issue. NAMBLA has been trying to soften the fringe on that for decades and no one is buying in.

And with increased scientific understanding relating to that capacity/consent, that protection and the argument from experience has been underscored and is in no danger of amelioration. In fact, you couldn't alter it without altering the foundation of both criminal and civil law in a way that would work clear and present danger to the integrity and stability of the compact.

Best guess? I suspect polygamy might be next. You could make many of the same arguments and some of the counters would be missing against it.

This for sure.
 

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I am not quite sure I even agree that the premise of your question is accurate. While homosexuals may have equal rights under the law, I certainly do not agree that it is socially acceptable in all places. I will not allow it in my house. And I don't think the courts can force me too either. Well at least I hope not.

I'm wondering why allowing adults freedom to do as they wish, if they don't bother other people, is "forcing" anything on anyone.

How do you "force" liberty on people? A contradiction in terms, it seems.

Sorry, LK, but that domino theory just doesn't work.

The laws that protect children have been in play and strengthening since our founding. In fact, despite the so called sexual revolution, where attitudes about sex in the culture changed dramatically, the laws relating to protecting children actually got stronger.

What's changed in this country is that we've become less involved in the moral choices of other adults that don't demonstrably impinge on our own rights and freedoms. However you feel about that it has nothing to do with pedophilia, which is a capacity/consent issue. NAMBLA has been trying to soften the fringe on that for decades and no one is buying in.

And with increased scientific understanding relating to that capacity/consent, that protection and the argument from experience has been underscored and is in no danger of amelioration. In fact, you couldn't alter it without altering the foundation of both criminal and civil law in a way that would work clear and present danger to the integrity and stability of the compact.

Best guess? I suspect polygamy might be next. You could make many of the same arguments and some of the counters would be missing against it.

^ This ...

Start a discussion about buggery and they WILL come to defend it. (Except for noguru, he's playing the Libertarian card where it's ok in society, but not in his home!).
 

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What's up next?

Obviously multi person/group marriage, and then of course the golden egg of the Homosexual Movement:

Sex with little boys.
 

LKmommy

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Sorry, LK, but that domino theory just doesn't work.

The laws that protect children have been in play and strengthening since our founding. In fact, despite the so called sexual revolution, where attitudes about sex in the culture changed dramatically, the laws relating to protecting children actually got stronger.

What's changed in this country is that we've become less involved in the moral choices of other adults that don't demonstrably impinge on our own rights and freedoms. However you feel about that it has nothing to do with pedophilia, which is a capacity/consent issue. NAMBLA has been trying to soften the fringe on that for decades and no one is buying in.

And with increased scientific understanding relating to that capacity/consent, that protection and the argument from experience has been underscored and is in no danger of amelioration. In fact, you couldn't alter it without altering the foundation of both criminal and civil law in a way that would work clear and present danger to the integrity and stability of the compact.

Best guess? I suspect polygamy might be next. You could make many of the same arguments and some of the counters would be missing against it.

I agree with you on the point that child laws have become "more strict" definately at least in the more clearly defined language. However I do not see the enforcement increasing as drastically as one would assume.

As far as the "new scientific research" :chuckle:, I guess I would have to question the authenticity of that "cross section sample" that was compiled to begin with. I highlighted "adult" morals only because I think that "parents" in general have loosened their standards with their children. What you described is what I refer to as "social desensitization" and I believe the loosening of morals has been a long, steady process.

You say it is a stretch and I see it as a possiblity following the history of how "far" abortion has come in the past 40 years.......You should know TH ;), all one needs is a few "sympathetic" jurors to make that charge "lessen" or go away completely.
 

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Sorry, LK, but that domino theory just doesn't work.

And that is what was said about fornication and pornography with the feminists and sexual revelution of the 60's. So, it has happened all the way up to pedophiles, but they are knocking on the door.
 

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Start a discussion about buggery and they WILL come to defend it. (Except for noguru, he's playing the Libertarian card where it's ok in society, but not in his home!).

Golly aCW - buggerers are some of the nicest people you could want to meet

I have it on good authority
 

gcthomas

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What's up next?

Obviously multi person/group marriage, and then of course the golden egg of the Homosexual Movement:

Sex with little boys.

Aah, that would be "the golden egg of the PAEDOPHILE movement".

Your mistake.

(Homosexual men are after other men, not boys. Learn what each term means before using them. Unless you are trying to dissemble and be dishonest, in which case - carry on!)
 

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Start a discussion about buggery and they WILL come to defend it. (Except for noguru, he's playing the Libertarian card where it's ok in society, but not in his home!).

Defend ... no. I am not on the defense because there is nothing to defend.
 
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