toldailytopic: Is gambling a sin?

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Nathon Detroit

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I'm going to tell my friend who frequently goes to the casino about your roulette strategy. He'd probably like to give that a try. And I might try it, too, if I head back to the casino anytime soon.
My roulette strategy might bore most gamblers because you spend most of your time NOT gambling. :chuckle: The good thing is you can make your gambling money last a long time! The down side of course is you aren't going to win huge amounts of dollars because you are only betting on reds, blacks, odds, or evens.
 

Krsto

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It's a game, not a matter of trusting in anything. Games are played for entertainment. There is no scriptural prohibition against playing games.

Oh, good - that's good to know - I play games here on TOL all the time :chuckle:
 

elohiym

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My roulette strategy might bore most gamblers because you spend most of your time NOT gambling. :chuckle:

A friend's brother uses a similar strategy with slots that has made him thousands by watching and waiting for the right machine. I wish I could tell you his exact strategy, but I can't remember all the details. I just know he wins on slots ... a lot.
 

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Mrs Delmar and I visited a casino a few weeks back on the way back from Chicago. We joined the "rewards program" and got two free buffet dinners and $10 each free credits to play on the slot machines.By the time we used up our credits I had won $12.50 and she had won $10.50. We left the casino with $20 cash and our bellies full!
My question is, is it gambling if you don't risk any of your own money?
I also like to enter the Publishers Clearing House sweepstakes, pretty much every day. It doesn't cost anything, but I do have to scroll through some online adds.
 

Omega39

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I don't think "responsible" gambling is a sin; however, it has the potential of being "irresponsible" gambling that would then become a sin when it robs your financial resources and relationships. Drinking alcohol is not a sin, but getting drunk is. I guess one could say gambling at excess (meaning the irresponsibility of surpassing the point where one isn't able to support himself or his family, pay bills, etc.) is a sin. In other words, if it causes you to be irresponsible with your relationship with God, managing finances, or established relationships, then it is sin.

My family and I, for a couple times per summer (although it's been a few years due to the economy), would go watch thoroughbred racing. We would set aside a specific amount of money based on the number of races for that day and not spend a penny more (usually $72-$80 altogether). We had pre-planned it, and my father would double-check finances to make sure it was okay to go. Some of those days we lost money, and other days we won money (I once won $82 at 40-1 odds through a $2 bet :D). It would also be a good bonding experience between me my family.

If one gambles, it must be his servant, not his master. Cf. Matthew 6:24
 

Omega39

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By the way, Knight, I like the new background for your avatar. It goes well with the topic. :thumb:
 

Samstarrett

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I don't think gambling is a sin, though I only rarely do it myself. I figured at least one person here would, though. Come on out, anti-gamblin' folks! We don't bite...too hard. :chuckle:

Seriously, though, if anyone has a Scriptural or other argument that gambling of all kinds is always wrong, I want to read it.
 

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The TheologyOnline.com TOPIC OF THE DAY for May 24th, 2011 09:54 AM


toldailytopic: Is gambling a sin?


I believe gambling is a form of entertainment like any other. If you spend too much money for the latest greatest video games, include your high speed internet to run it (per month), and the price of your system (xbox,ps3, ?) whats the difference? A person can be an addict to any form of entertainment and if we are talking about addiction then this would be sin. Gambling can be fun on a vacation or amongst friends but, one must keep it in prospective, limits must be set and adhered to or problems could occur. Again these problems could occur with any form of entertainment.
 

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Side topic: If you don't believe gambling is a sin please tell me what your favorite games to play are and if you have any strategies that you think are effective.

I like to play poker, I enjoy hold em but, I really enjoy 7 card stud. The two are played much differently in that you have to be a good card watcher in a 7 card game, and be able to remember the cards showed even after other players fold in order to calculate the odds of catching the cards you need. 7 card stud can get expensive also if you try to play out every hand, just like the song says "You gotta know when to hold em and know when to fold em". It seems though you can play poker for hours and not spend nearly the money you would on the tables or slots. The beauty of Poker is that you are not playing against the house, the house takes a percentage of the pot for supplying the dealer and table but, the players play against each other which really gives you more control.
 

Buzzword

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I don't gamble myself (too poor), but I like the way my aunt and uncle do it when they go to Vegas.

They set aside X-amount of money for playing, and my uncle puts it in his right pocket.
The rest of the cash that they take with them (for food, travel, hotel, etc.) is put in my uncle's left pocket.

When the right pocket is empty, they come home.
No exceptions.


As far as games which don't require actual money, my wife taught me how to play Texas Hold 'Em and I've always enjoyed it.
 

Refractive

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I like to play poker, I enjoy hold em but, I really enjoy 7 card stud.
When I play poker it's gambling. Thinking about my game, it must be a sin.

When Eric Seidel plays poker it's a skilled art. Thinking about his game, it must be some state of grace.
 

genuineoriginal

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Side topic: If you don't believe gambling is a sin please tell me what your favorite games to play are and if you have any strategies that you think are effective.

Donald Trump had a sure fire strategy to winning.
Borrow a lot of money from a bank to build a large casino.
If the casino doesn't bring in enough money to pay the loan payment, then blackmail the bank by threatening to default on the loan until they lend you more money.
 

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The TheologyOnline.com TOPIC OF THE DAY for May 24th, 2011 09:54 AM


toldailytopic: Is gambling a sin?

This discussion resonates with me on the topic:

Q and A - Gambling

There are no easy answers, other than the guidance of one's Christian conscience as led by the Holy Spirit.

AMR
 

Four O'Clock

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I would say no if done in moderation AND/OR done with the intent to win money and not for a ''thrill'' (not to be confused with the usual 'fun' associated with gambling.
Although C.S. Lewis may have been onto something when he said that he was uncomfortable with large sums of money passing from one hand to another with no 'work'/'productivity' involved.
I rarely gamble anymore (except for the Triple Crown races from time to time) but when I did, I stuck to forms that had some form of skill involved (Basketball/Football/Boxing/Horse Racing)
I did fairly well on my BB/FB betting by picking and choosing carefully and sporadically on games.
Back in the early 80's I did bet $500 on Larry Holmes to defeat Gerry Cooney for the HW title fight and $500 on Wilfred Benitez to defeat Roberto Duran in a middleweight elimination bout. Thankfully I won both tho I didn't double my money because Holmes & Benitez were the favorites going in...
I have tried roulette a few times with some success. I used a derivative of the ''Knight theory". Based on a French mathematician I call it the ol' bet 2 1/2 times into a loss theory.
Bet $1 on black. If it goes red bet $3 on black. If red again bet $8 on black. If red again bet $20 on black. If it hits black you've bet 1-3-8=$12 and you've won $20 for a net profit of $8.
After black comes, you go back to the beginning and start with $1 on black again and repeat the process.
The only thing that can kill you is if red comes 6 straight times. Then you're down 1-3-8-20-50-120=$202. If that would ever happen, I would quit figuring it just wasn't my day.
I've tried it twice here in Indiana and twice on resort trips (Dominican Rep. & Cancun) and won a total of about $300 (about 2 1/2 months of electric bills :=} )

*hot tip*
I believe they're bringing 'Nehro' back for the Belmont in 2 1/2 weeks.
He ran 2nd in the Louisiana Derby (lost by a head) 2nd in the Arkansas Derby (lost by a nose) and 2nd in the Kentucky Derby after being placed too close to the leaders at the start (Animal Kingdom reeled him in at the end) His owners wisely skipped the Preakness to rest him after a very busy Spring. With Shackelford/Animal Kingdom/maybe Mucho Macho Dude and Santiva in the Belmont Nehro's odds might be around 5:1 or 6:1.
A $10 win, $10 place bet would bring you a net profit of about $100 (if he wins) and about $20 if he runs second (covers your bet with a little left over *always cover your win bets with a little place money to, at least get your investment back*)
 

Four O'Clock

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Sidebar:
I mentioned that I enjoy horse racing (such beautiful animals!)
If I'm ever having a 'down' day over the years, I've simply went to youtube and looked up 'Secretariat Belmont Stakes' for his awesome Triple Crown coronation win. (go to the b&w clip near the top with the most views)
After his KD and Preakness dominations, only six horses went to the post including the talented Sham who had run second to 'Big Red' in the first two legs of the TC...
Secretariat & Sham move out early about 10 lengths ahead of the field in what appears to be a two-horse duel....then watch what happens!!!
I was welling up with tears when I saw it live in '73...
A real pick-me-upper if your having a bad day...:)
 

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However, I don't gamble to win but to have fun (winning is more fun than losing of course). I set aside a budget that I plan to lose that night and think of it as no different than spending it on a movie or dinner. Once I spend my gambling budget I quit and do something else.
That's a good approach.

We are told to count the cost before we start a project.


Luke 14
(28) For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it?
(29) Lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish it, all that behold it begin to mock him,
(30) Saying, This man began to build, and was not able to finish.



You counted the cost and set a limit.

But if one were to approach gambling as a means to get rich (or even make a living), he most likely would end up like the other guy!
 

Nick M

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No.

Longer post coming. Harrahs (Now Caesers) is in my backyard.
 

zoo22

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I think it depends on what's in your heart. What's driving you, your motivations, the way you consider consequences.
 
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