ECT Things known for ages--Acts 15

glorydaz

glorydaz

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Interplanner said:
He doesn't need to. Christ is the fullness of the Godhead and the land as such does nothing for this. He came to launch a mulitude of preachers whose feet were beautiful as they cross all the mountains of the world.

You are totally out of sync and beat.

You don't even know the NT doesn't care about the land per se, except to save it the toasting it got in the 1st generation.
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God doesn't need to fulfill His promise? That's certainly an odd thing to say.
 
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Interplanner

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glorydaz said:
God doesn't need to fulfill His promise? That's certainly an odd thing to say.
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He did in the original sense; several places in Joshua say so.

But we also read in the NT (Heb 11) that they weren't looking for a land there anyway, even when they got to Judea. Rom 4 says the inheritance of Abraham along with us is the 'world to come.' The NHNE.

The question is whether exilic prophecy like Isaiah's 2nd half, or Dan 8-9, is saying that a redemptive Messiah is coming (for sure on that one) and ALSO that the same land promise as back in Gen 12 is also going to be delivered all over again. There is nothing about that in the NT, instead, it dwells on the mission. Because of things Isaiah said: 'It is too small thing for you (the Servant) to restore the fortunes of Israel; I will make you a light to the nations.' Or Dan 9's showing us that while Messiah succeeds in his work, Israel is desolated, at the same time.
 
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Danoh

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SaulToPaul said:
You are correct. It is concerned with the City and the heavens.
Show us where it cancels the land promises, however, and we will shut up.
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Nah - were he to point out such a thing with Scripture; you would do what you always do where a thing does not fit your hybrid or where it keeps you from seeing the obvious: you would deflect :chuckle:
 
SaulToPaul 2

SaulToPaul 2

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Danoh said:
Nah - were he to point out such a thing with Scripture; you would do what you always do where a thing does not fit your hybrid or where it keeps you from seeing the obvious: you would deflect :chuckle:
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If he would apply the Danohianic Principle, I'd listen.
 
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Tambora said:
That pretty much sums it up.
Either one believes GOD keeps His oaths or He does not.
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Except that it is not where the NT ends up. It never sounds like that. It never says gotcha with your question. The question of the NT is what was fulfilled in Christ and are you at work in the mission of it? Everything else is hooey. There is no need for anything else. Everything else will be destroyed because it is part of this creation.

Rom 3 and 9 do not make a final proof of God out of the land of Israel in the disant future. Not a trace. Nothing like it. Not a thought of it. We know this ESPECIALLY from the commentary of Heb 9-10 on Heb 8 which has the clubs prooftext fav passage.
 
SaulToPaul 2

SaulToPaul 2

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Except that it is not where the NT ends up. It never sounds like that. It never says gotcha with your question. The question of the NT is what was fulfilled in Christ and are you at work in the mission of it? Everything else is hooey. There is no need for anything else. Everything else will be destroyed because it is part of this creation.

Rom 3 and 9 do not make a final proof of God out of the land of Israel in the disant future. Not a trace. Nothing like it. Not a thought of it. We know this ESPECIALLY from the commentary of Heb 9-10 on Heb 8 which has the clubs prooftext fav passage.
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Huh?
 
SaulToPaul 2

SaulToPaul 2

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Except that it is not where the NT ends up. It never sounds like that. It never says gotcha with your question. The question of the NT is what was fulfilled in Christ and are you at work in the mission of it? Everything else is hooey. There is no need for anything else. Everything else will be destroyed because it is part of this creation.

Rom 3 and 9 do not make a final proof of God out of the land of Israel in the disant future. Not a trace. Nothing like it. Not a thought of it. We know this ESPECIALLY from the commentary of Heb 9-10 on Heb 8 which has the clubs prooftext fav passage.
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When did God restore the years the locust have eaten?
 
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