The Trinity

[glorydaz]

Actually four according to your doctrine.

Though you can't see that most likely.

You poor blind fool.

There are none so blind as those who WILL NOT see. :nono:

 

[popsthebuilder]

Oh, those are my two options because that's all you are able to see. :chuckle:

No, you give several texts with multiple verses that are both broad and wide....as if you've actually made an argument. There are probably twenty arguments (more even) in that group....including scolding which is one of your favorite things.

Windmills

I don't really care to scold or get burned. I'd much rather actually discuss things peaceably to some profitable end. But you won't be having that now with you.

I know; I'm proud right?

 

[popsthebuilder]

Oh, those are my two options because that's all you are able to see. :chuckle:

No, you give several texts with multiple verses that are both broad and wide....as if you've actually made an argument. There are probably twenty arguments (more even) in that group....including scolding which is one of your favorite things.

Windmills

Those are the two options because the truth is simple

 

[popsthebuilder]

By saying "allow," you (perhaps unintentionally) make it seem like God is ok with people going against His will. That is not the case at all. I suggest you stop using the word "allow" to refer to something that happened. Because I assure you, God did not "allow" it to happen, it simply happened.



Except that is exactly what it says, especially to any unbelievers reading this thread. Words and ideas have consequences, Pops. You need to be mindful of that.

That's rather laughable coming from one who thinks he is allowed to knowingly sin and consider himself too made righteous by Christ.

 

[popsthebuilder]

You poor blind fool.

There are none so blind as those who WILL NOT see. :nono:

Yet all can see plainly the truth that flows from your mouth; all but you surely oh judge.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Not at all.

Three different persons is three different spirits by default.

Incorrect.

Actually four according to your doctrine.

Though you can't see that most likely.

Oh? And what are the other two, other than a divine nature and a human nature?

I am well aware that St. Paul preaches effectual faith though man would have us think the dead sort was spoken of and expounded upon.

Funny thing, context; more often than not, it spans actual chapters, showing the numeric divisions and even divisions of the chapters to be additions and needlessly divisive and too distractng from the actual content of the subject matter.

Something you seem to readily ignore.

And my point is that what you say is polytheistic in its very root and source. Please check.

Not to mention am oxymoron.

"Elohim bara" "[Gods] [He created]"

"YHWH ehad" "[The Lord] [(is) one<plurality>]

Do you think those statements are oxymorons?

Because they're not. That's what the verses say.

 

[JudgeRightly]

That's rather laughable coming from one who thinks he is allowed to knowingly sin and consider himself too made righteous by Christ.

I think I'm not going to respond to comments with improper usage of the word "too" in them.

If you want to speak, speak like a normal human being. Or was the word "also" never added to your vocabulary.

 

[glorydaz]

You're missing the point. Golly, you people are dense.

My point is not that there are multiple words that mean one. My point is that the word used to describe God is not "one of singularity," as you and GT keep insisting, but that the word used means "one of plurality."

They are more than dense, they are lost.

They simply WILL NOT humble themselves long enough to hear the Gospel of Grace.

Until they are begotten by the Gospel, and the Holy Spirit comes to dwell in their heart, they will continue to trust in their own understanding....just as they trust in their own so-called obedience. Man's pride is a horrible taskmaster. It stops their ears, and causes their mouths to expel one falsehood after another.

Pearls before the swine, brother.

 

[glorydaz]

That's rather laughable coming from one who thinks he is allowed to knowingly sin and consider himself too made righteous by Christ.

Yet all can see plainly the truth that flows from your mouth; all but you surely oh judge.

Laugh all you want.....believers are to judge all things.

That isn't you, Pops. You're unqualified to judge anything.

 

[glorydaz]

I think I'm not going to respond to comments with improper usage of the word "too" in them.

If you want to speak, speak like a normal human being. Or was the word "also" never added to your vocabulary.

Clete was correct. He's a total waste of time.

The most Pops should ever get is the simple Gospel.

He simply isn't ready for more.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Incorrect.



Oh? And what are the other two, other than a divine nature and a human nature?



Something you seem to readily ignore.



"Elohim bara" "[Gods] [He created]"

"YHWH ehad" "[The Lord] [(is) one<plurality>]

Do you think those statements are oxymorons?

Because they're not. That's what the verses say.

I am a person. One whole person. I have a spirit (singular).

If I where comprised of three persons then you could justifiably state that I had three spirits.... Like Legion or something. So yes; three persons can be considered three spirits.

As far as the plurality in your doctrine is concerned; if the Temple of GOD contained the fullness of GOD per your doctrine of three persons together equaling the fullness of GOD, then the three persons or spirits that make your god are three and contained within the vessel where as the vessel too has a spirit because He is also a complete man. That's four.

I don't ignore scripture or that the Jew was off the mark in more than one respect; not because they followed the words of Moses, or the commands of GOD; but because of greed and pride being their GOD and the cause of their misdirection and misdirecting.

 

[God's Truth]

To clarify ( thanks to @ 1Mind1Spirit )....whatever is not faith is sin. Abraham was still Abram when he took Hagar into his tent.

But, Abraham, like Saul/Paul, was "blameless" under the law. Righteousness is not found in law keeping.

Abraham and Paul were righteous for believing and obeying God.

Abraham obeyed God from the beginning.

I can hardly believe you said those who obeyed the law were not righteous.


Psalm 69:28 May they be blotted out of the book of life and not be listed with the righteous.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Laugh all you want.....believers are to judge all things.

That isn't you, Pops. You're unqualified to judge anything.

I don't doubt we are to judge rightly and with mercy, silly; just that either of you judge a right of late.

 

[God's Truth]

I do believe she's having another melt down. Laughing like a fool is the first sign.

Can you give the scripture that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are like a husband and wife?

I thought three in a marriage was a crowd?

 

[glorydaz]

Abraham and Paul were righteous for believing and obeying God.

Of course. God's UNtruth is the truth teller, and the Apostle Paul was the Liar. :chuckle:

Romans 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.

Romans 4:5-6 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Romans 10:22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.​

 

[glorydaz]

Can you give the scripture that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are like a husband and wife?

I thought three in a marriage was a crowd?

It was an example how "the two are one". I know it's a bit over your head, but do try to keep up.



And STOP MOCKING our Triune God just because you're too filled with Pride to know Him. :down:

 

[patrick jane]

Can you give the scripture that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are like a husband and wife?

I thought three in a marriage was a crowd?

GT, you won't learn anything until you renew your subscription.

 

[glorydaz]

I don't doubt we are to judge rightly and with mercy, silly; just that either of you judge a right of late.

Silly? Back to kindergarten with you, Pops. :baby:


Don't expect mercy from me, it's God you need to believe....only then can you apply for His mercy and Grace.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Of course. God's UNtruth is the truth teller, and the Apostle Paul was the Liar. :chuckle:

Romans 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.

Romans 4:5-6 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Romans 10:22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.​

So.... If Abraham wouldn't have offered up his son he would have still been counted righteous?

 

[popsthebuilder]

Silly? Back to kindergarten with you, Pops. :baby:


Don't expect mercy from me, it's God you need to believe....only then can you apply for His mercy and Grace.

Yeah..... Uhm.....i've received it to an inexpressible extent.


Yes silly, as in not accurate or true.