The Trinity

[popsthebuilder]

God the Father was tempted AS a MAN IN THE DESERT for a time.

I am not so sure I am agreeing with you on what your are trying to convey.

Did GOD have to physically live out the life of a man in order to know of his situation/ experience/ existence? Or did GOD have to take on flesh to know of the temptation that is ever before man? If GOD cannot be tempted then IT easily and simply follows that what suffers temptation is not GOD.

That isn't to say that the Spirit or Christ aren't GOD. It only means that as man one is not GOD. GOD cannot be tempted and is Spirit.

Please do show where we are missing one another that we might come into a singular, true agreement and accord by the will of GOD, for our sake.

peace

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[marhig]

I never once called you a liar, and you are going on the defensive, and when you do you turn nasty, there is no need for that! You said that you don't sin and are not tempted, but I believe that everyone sins as some point, we are in sinful flesh and Satan tempts us whilst we are here. And I'm asking why you think that you never ever sin or that you are never tempted?

You need to read my posts better, I clearly quoted the scripture that shows that the apostles CONTINUED with Jesus in his temptations. It wasn't a one off thing I think it's amazing that Jesus resisted Satan the way he did. And I love him deeply.

Anyway here's the verses again, because you asked for them!

Luke 22:28 Ye are they which have continued with me in my temptations. And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me; That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

1 Corinthians 10:12

Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

We are all tempted, but we can overcome through Christ by the power of Spirit, if we live by the will of God.

I'm just going to our house meeting

 

[God's Truth]

I never once called you a liar, and you are going on the defensive, and when you do you turn nasty, there is no need for that! You said that you don't sin and are not tempted, but I believe that everyone sins as some point, we are in sinful flesh and Satan tempts us whilst we are here. And I'm asking why you think that you never ever sin or that you are never tempted?

You need to read my posts better, I clearly quoted the scripture that shows that the apostles CONTINUED with Jesus in his temptations. It wasn't a one off thing I think it's amazing that Jesus resisted Satan the way he did. And I love him deeply.

Anyway here's the verses again, because you asked for them!

Luke 22:28 Ye are they which have continued with me in my temptations. And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me; That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

1 Corinthians 10:12

Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

We are all tempted, but we can overcome through Christ by the power of Spirit, if we live by the will of God.

I'm just going to our house meeting

You repeatedly called people liars, people for whom Peter spoke of:

1 Peter 4:1 Therefore, since Christ suffered in his body, arm yourselves also with the same attitude, because whoever suffers in the body is done with sin.

Now go back and look at your posts and put here how you called these people 'liars'.

 

[Truster]

Every time Messiah was opposed He was being tempted. Truth is always opposed by lies and liers. Standing in opposition is withstanding temptation to doubt...

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.​

 

[God's Truth]

Did GOD have to physically live out the life of a man in order to know of his situation/ experience/ existence? Or did GOD have to take on flesh to know of the temptation that is ever before man? If GOD cannot be tempted then IT easily and simply follows that what suffers temptation is not GOD.

I have no idea what you are saying. Would you mind clarifying?

That isn't to say that the Spirit or Christ aren't GOD. It only means that as man one is not GOD. GOD cannot be tempted and is Spirit.

Please do show where we are missing one another that we might come into a singular, true agreement and accord by the will of GOD, for our sake.

peace

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I hope that you can clarify what you mean and what exactly you do not accept about being led to be tempted in the desert versus living a life tempted to sin.

Jesus was tempted in the desert. How many humans are brought to such a place and for a time?

Not only that, the scriptures say for a season. Jesus was tempted when faced with torture and death. Tempted to do what? Tempted not to obey God? Tempted when struggling with the work set before him, torture and death.

HOWEVER, get over it, for being tempted to do sinful things is not even a concern of mine anymore, MUCH LESS JESUS'!

 

[God's Truth]

Every time Messiah was opposed He was being tempted. Truth is always opposed by lies and liers. Standing in opposition is withstanding temptation to doubt...

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.​

What a pathetic thing to say, but no wonder, you go by Calvin. Calvin thought Paul was speaking of himself as being in the same condition AFTER Jesus saved him...lol...instead of Paul conveying what his life was like BEFORE being saved.

Do you really want to believe and teach that PAUL DID NOTHING GOOD AND ONLY EVIL, and that NOTHING GOOD WAS IN HIM?

 

[Truster]

What a pathetic thing to say, but no wonder, you go by Calvin. Calvin thought Paul was speaking of himself as being in the same condition AFTER Jesus saved him...lol...instead of Paul conveying what his life was like BEFORE being saved.

Do you really want to believe and teach that PAUL DID NOTHING GOOD AND ONLY EVIL, and that NOTHING GOOD WAS IN HIM?

Nice attempt at diverting, but you have once again failed.

 

[popsthebuilder]

I have no idea what you are saying. Would you mind clarifying?


I hope that you can clarify what you mean and what exactly you do not accept about being led to be tempted in the desert versus living a life tempted to sin.

Jesus was tempted in the desert. How many humans are brought to such a place and for a time?

Not only that, the scriptures say for a season. Jesus was tempted when faced with torture and death. Tempted to do what? Tempted not to obey God? Tempted when struggling with the work set before him, torture and death.

HOWEVER, get over it, for being tempted to do sinful things is not even a concern of mine anymore, MUCH LESS JESUS'!

I do not deny Jesus was tempted.

When and where make little difference I think.

My point was that He was tempted and GOD is not.

My other point was that GOD is omniscient, and in need of no thing whatsoever in order to know anything whatsoever.

That is all.

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[God's Truth]

I do not deny Jesus was tempted.

When and where make little difference I think.

No way, it does make a difference. All truth makes a difference.

My point was that He was tempted and GOD is not.

Are you saying Jesus was not God?

My other point was that GOD is omniscient, and in need of no thing whatsoever in order to know anything whatsoever.

That is all.

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Jesus is God the Father come as a Man.

As a Man there are limits.

So are you saying Jesus was not God? Please clarify.

 

[God's Truth]

Nice attempt at diverting, but you have once again failed.

What you just said about me diverting---was a diversion.

You can't defend your false doctrines that is why you state your beliefs and then hid and peek your head out to strike and give insults.

 

[lifeisgood]

You need the Lord, you can't control yourself and refrain from calling people the worst name you can think of that Jesus speaks of.

Oh, foolish, foolish woman. You can't stand that Christ Jesus does not need you to save you, do you.

You who so vociferously say you OBEY ALL of Jesus' commandments and then when asked confess (but does not repent) that you do not obey all of them, and then keeps on demanding that all follow your flawed confessed and not repented example.

 

[lifeisgood]

It leads to change, turning from, and stopping.

All are actions.

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Repentance starts and finishes in the heart. The result of the repentance of the heart is seen in the outside.

 

[lifeisgood]

Jesus commands us to repent.

Repentance is a heart thing. The result of the repentance of the heart is seen in the outside.

 

[lifeisgood]

So then, how do you now who is and who isn't?

Those who are saved will always say Jesus Christ and His finished/completed work on the Cross of Calvary exclusively saved me, plus absolutely nothing, bringing glory to God. Salvation is all of God and nothing of any one of us, no matter how much a person says that they contributed with their obedience, their repentance, their works, etc.

Salvation is all of God and nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing, of any person and the saved will always say that.

 

[Bright Raven]

The scripture says he was led into the desert to be tempted that is where he was tempted.

I take it you do not like the way the Hebrews passage reads.

 

[God's Truth]

I take it you do not like the way the Hebrews passage reads.

That scripture does not say he was tempted all the time like some of you say you are.

 

[God's Truth]

Oh, foolish, foolish woman. You can't stand that Christ Jesus does not need you to save you, do you.

You who so vociferously say you OBEY ALL of Jesus' commandments and then when asked confess (but does not repent) that you do not obey all of them, and then keeps on demanding that all follow your flawed confessed and not repented example.

You are foul mouthed and are dishonest, IMHO.

 

[God's Truth]

Repentance starts and finishes in the heart. The result of the repentance of the heart is seen in the outside.

What if someone is paralyzed and can't move and can't talk and can only think and experience emotions?

I say you don't have enough understanding about what is spiritual.

 

[JudgeRightly]

What if someone is paralyzed and can't move and can't talk and can only think and experience emotions?

I say you don't have enough understanding about what is spiritual.

If they believe, they will be saved. Same with the criminal on the cross next to Jesus.

 

[God's Truth]

If they believe, they will be saved. Same with the criminal on the cross next to Jesus.

They do more than just believe, because believing ONLY IS DEAD.

You been told that many times, and you have been shown the scripture, yet you refuse to acknowledge the truth.

The thief on the cross FEARED God, ACKNOWLEDGED Jesus before others, confessed and repented of his sins, and called on Jesus to save him.