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Danged ole'parrotsThe only one that has that particular spirit, gt, is you.
I told you what comes out of your own words.
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Danged ole'parrotsThe only one that has that particular spirit, gt, is you.
I told you what comes out of your own words.
We will pray you and keypurr, popsDanged ole'parrots
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WowYou are at most a single stone in a temple made up of billions of other stones.
And you are not a teacher; nobody should ever take your word for it, unless you happen to be teaching exactly what the Church's actual teachers also teach.
What is impossible is following a thing without actually pursuing it.You are so good in twisting what a conversation is all about it is amazing.
Obviously, I was not talking about YOUR success, but your preaching your doctrine to an UNbeliever that they MUST OBEY Jesus’ commandments even before God saves them. Yes, that is what you preach.
Because they BELIEVED Jesus Christ and His finished/completed work on the Cross of Calvary.
No UNbeliever can receive the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit is the Comforter because of the OBEDIENCE of Jesus.
No amount of gt’s OBEDIENCE is going to send the Comforter. Get a grip, gt.
Absolutely. They are for those who BELIEVE Jesus Christ and His finished/completed work on the Cross of Calvary.
None of the verses you provided is addressed to an UNbeliever.
I am not a Calvinist. I am Pentecostal, thank you very much.
A UNbeliever couldn’t OBEY TO BE SAVED if their life depended on it.
It is impossible for a UNbeliever to follow God.
BELIEVERS are led by the Holy Spirit. And God says that the only way to be led by the Holy Spirit is to be filled by the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 5:18), which is a separate work after being saved.
They have to BELIEVE Jesus Christ and His finished/completed work on the Cross of Calvary.
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You are a dangerous preacher for you have a mixture of The Truth with your UNtruth.
What a boor. :chuckle: You do know, that there are people out there today, right now, who don't believe in the RESURRECTION, right? Who cares, that you think "Jesus anointed just doesn't sound right," do you know that Japan today, right now, is not Christian, because of censored like this? Literally, the emperor heard the Catholic emissary, and thought it sounded good, and then the Protestant emissary, "Oh, don't trust the Catholic," so the emperor said, "Censored Christianity!" and kicked all the Church out of Japan?Ofttimes I will say Jesus the Christ of GOD. Because Jesus was the anointed of GOD. Christ means anointed with oil.
Jesus anointed just doesn't sound right; it isn't a last name; it is a title.
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Wow what.Wow
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I agree with that.What is impossible is following a thing without actually pursuing it.
S n r m m 9 3 u i g T p t l
Cool.
But you couldn't provide a verse where Paul says: ‘I couldn't care any less what you think of me.’ Got it.
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But you couldn't provide a verse where Paul says: ‘I couldn't care any less what you think of me.’ Got it.
Cool.
But you couldn't provide a verse where Paul says: ‘I couldn't care any less what you think of me.’ Got it.
Cool.
But you couldn't provide a verse where Paul says: ‘I couldn't care any less what you think of me.’ Got it.
I'm sincere.I don't expect anyone be sincere just because I am
I don't do that.; just don't think I'll be taking you seriously any time soon.
All you seem to wish to do is accuse and or misrepresent others who's belief you don't agree with.
That may venture for you, but as I've stated; my goal is for profitable conversation.
Perhaps you are right about something; how would any catch it through the negativity generally emanated from you?
You think I'm wrong; that much is certain. So what do you do to help the lost? Be a general prick.... Check this out.... Really.... Consider what I'm about to write, really consider it.
Have you ever learned a positive thing from a person who actively hurt you or angered you? Have you ever left upon the conclusion of an interaction with someone being mean spirited or hateful or bitter thinking "hey, they were right. It's a good thing that went down like that or I might not have gained that valuable insight from that intellectual person?
I'll give you a hint; the answer is no, you haven't.
So; if you, being the true christian you so obviously are, are actively being hateful or hurtful while attempting to convey some message; well, frankly, then, you're urinating into the wind (synonymous too, with peeing on one's own self.)
Thanks though; my poor memory keeps allowing for my attempts at actual profitable communication; you keep reminding me I'm barking up the wrong tree.
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Not in the slightest bit. For centuries the whole ("catholic!") Church received Matthew 16:18 (KJV) as plain and clear scriptural evidence of the primacy of the successor of Peter; first among equals, where the equals are all the bishops of the One Church.
:AMR:
Matthew 16:18 (KJV) : " thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. "
Let the reader decide? :idunno:
"By the comments thus far?" What are you trying to set out here? An election, of user accounts participating in the thread? Really?By the comments thus far
EVEN THOUGH THAT'S HIS NAME, THAT JESUS GAVE HIM. :freak:, I think the readers here have already spoken. The Rock is Christ, the church is built on Christ, and the gates of hell did not prevail against Christ, and he returns for us with the keys of hell and death.
Is the Rock Peter? No
"By the comments thus far?" What are you trying to set out here? An election, of user accounts participating in the thread? Really?
EVEN THOUGH THAT'S HIS NAME, THAT JESUS GAVE HIM. :freak:
:AMR: How far back?YOU are the one that invoked the audience, "Let the reader decide?"
What is your complaint, that the Church had no complaint, for centuries, that Peter's successor in the Roman diocese was supreme among the Church's elders? That was uncontested for centuries. Why, when the Church was her youngest, did everybody all agree that Matthew 16:18 (KJV) says what I've been saying it says? What's your answer for that? They were all wrong, for centuries and centuries and centuries? Right from the start?Yes, he gave him the name PETROS, not PETRA. Is your theory that there was a grand anti-Catholic conspiracy that corrupted all of the Greek texts?
You are already contradicting yourself, for just earlier you were saying that Job had seen God, with his eyes, in the flesh. So when you use your argument above to say that the LORD did not visibly appear to Abraham, you are being rather inconsistent.
Genesis 32:28-30 KJV....
(30) And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.
Let's not forget that Moses saw God in at least two different senses. God talked with Moses face to face, as one would a friend, and then accepted Moses's request to see him even further. Your argument is suspiciously avoiding all of these places that we have already discussed. The answer is that when Jesus says that "no man has seen God" he is speaking in a different sense of the word see, or in a different application.
Let's not forget that Moses saw God in at least two different senses. God talked with Moses face to face, as one would a friend, and then accepted Moses's request to see him even further.
Job 19:25-27 KJV
(25) For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:
(26) And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:
(27) Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me.
You thought it preferable to avoid the meaning of this passage before, by claiming that these were two separate unrelated prophesies, breaking apart the Hebrew into a disjointed broken set. I thought I'd share something that came up in an unrelated conversation on Joshua's Long Day posted by Wick Stick.
Translating into this problem, when your interpretation has to bend to make the parallel sentences have different meaning, then you've done something wrong. That isn't how the bible is written. Job knew that his Redeemer liveth, and that He shall stand in the latter day upon the earth, and that he would see this with his own eyes, and though the worms consume his body from within, yet in the flesh would he see GOD.
Job's Redeemer shall stand in the latter day upon the earth, and thus he shall see God, literally, with his own fleshly eyes.
He didn't make a statement as to why they were stoning him. You'd have to add to the text to come up with something different than what the Jews specified, "because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God."
Actually, you have asked a slightly different question before. Yes, those Pharisees are the little "gods" of the Psalm.
NWL said:The Jews accusation: You Jesus make yourself God.
Jesus answer: Are you not corrupt judges/gods?Yes, that is the convenient introduction that he uses.
The only reason this makes no sense to you is because you insisting that scripture must bend to JW doctrine.
1. Who is it that judges among those gods? Jesus said it was he.
2. Who is it that arises, or has risen? Jesus said it was he.
3. Who is it that shall inherit all nations? Jesus said it was he.
... and the Psalm says GOD. If Jesus meant to deny that "he made himself God" this would be a bizarre Psalm to reference!
See above. Plus, you know that Jesus was indirect in the approach to these things. Did he tell his disciples "I am the Son of God" or did he ask them, "what do men say that I am?" Sometimes the scripture does come straight out and tell us that Jesus is indeed our God, and you argue up and down that this can't possibly be what it means. If you deny the explicit statements, how can you expect to understand the iceberg of implicit statements beneath?
Scripture pleaseOnly for those plucking their own eyes so they cannot comprehend for their rejection of God's written word.
Mr. Patrick, did you understand the point of the post you quouted?We will pray you and keypurr, pops
So your motive is to be tough but fair, not to lead the lost sheep to Jesus the Christ? NotedI'm sincere.
I don't do that.
lain: I have. "Tough but fair." You just described tough but fair.
It matters not what amount of information you receive you will reject all of it.
My prayer to you is that God (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) breaks through your indoctrination as only God (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) can break through the darkness of your indoctrination.
And you chose to have this conversation in a public forum. If you don't want to be observed, use the private means.
Do you really want to resemble GT?