The Trinity

The Trinity


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God's Truth

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Is there something about something being historical that gives one confidence that it is truth?

There are false doctrines that the disciples warn us about, and there are false doctrines before Jesus.

So much for historical being the deciding factor.
 

glorydaz

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My JW bible? Most if not nearly all other bibles read excatly the same way, who are you trying to fall. :kookoo:

Oh, so they've stopped adulterating John 1:1?



I was saved over 40 years ago because of that A GOD you folks added to the Bible.

I was listening to some JW's who came to my door, and when they read that, I was taken aback by the Holy Spirit...in shock. I went in and found my Bible....lo and behold, it didn't have that little "a" in it. So, don't get all huffy with me. I know that little "a" was added by God's enemy. I'm sure you know who that would be. It might just be that same "god" you give so much credence to.
 

Bright Raven

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To clarify, you are say the Father is a Spirit, the Son is a Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is a Spirit, correct?

You also are saying they are the same Spirit, correct?

You say they are different in essence.

Tell me what is that essence.

What are the differences between the Father, Son and Spirit? In this question you find the answer to your question. Why are each addressed as different entities?
 

God's Truth

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BR, just so you know, AMR says the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit are NOT the same Spirit.

...just so you know that your trinitarian beliefs are very different from another's.
 

popsthebuilder

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Where are your verses? Do you think you're right if you can get enough people to agree with you?

That isn't the way it works. Post the verses you're attempting to prove. :popcorn:
John: 4. 24. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Matthew: 3. 16. And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Matthew: 10. 20. For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

Matthew: 12. 18. Behold my servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles.

Jesus was not the utter fullness of the eternal GOD of all existence while He walked the earth as man.

Matthew: 22. 44. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool

Another verse making the distinction between LORD(creator and sustainer of all existence), and Lord of lords/ King of kings(signifying the the highest and purest of all men ever, and the just/ merciful ruler of all.)

Mark: 1. 12. And immediately the Spirit driveth him into the wilderness.

(odd; He didn't drive Himself)

Mark: 3. 11. And unclean spirits, when they saw him, fell down before him, and cried, saying, Thou art the Son of God.

(strange; they didn't call him the utter fullness of GOD)

Luke: 1. 47. And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour. 48. For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed. 49. For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name. 50. And his mercy is on them that fear him from generation to generation. 51. He hath shewed strength with his arm; he hath scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts. 52. He hath put down the mighty from their seats, and exalted them of low degree. 53. He hath filled the hungry with good things; and the rich he hath sent empty away. 54. He hath holpen his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy; 55. As he spake to our fathers, to Abraham, and to his seed for ever.

(I suppose Mary was speaking of her unborn son even though she was speaking about past occurrences.)

Luke: 2. 40. And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him.

(could someone whonthinks the Christ was the utter fullness of GOD while He walked the earth please explain this verse?)

Luke: 4. 18. The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, 19. To preach the acceptable year of the Lord. 20. And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him. 21. And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears. 22. And all bare him witness, and wondered at the gracious words which proceeded out of his mouth. And they said, Is not this Joseph's son? 24. And he said, Verily I say unto you, No prophet is accepted in his own country. 25. But I tell you of a truth, many widows were in Israel in the days of Elias, when the heaven was shut up three years and six months, when great famine was throughout all the land; 26. But unto none of them was Elias sent, save unto Sarepta, a city of Sidon, unto a woman that was a widow. 27. And many lepers were in Israel in the time of Eliseus the prophet; and none of them was cleansed, saving Naaman the Syrian.

(the Christ likening Himself to Eliseus, a prophet; not GOD.)

Luke: 23. 46. And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

(pretty sure He wasn't praying to Himself)

Acts: 18. 5. And when Silas and Timotheus were come from Macedonia, Paul was pressed in the spirit, and testified to the Jews that Jesus was Christ.

Romans: 8. 11. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

Romans: 8. 23. And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

(Does anyone know who the firstfruit is? Does fruit produce itself, or goes it spring forth from the tree?)

I think I have successfully substantiated my two claims with scripture.

GOD is spirit, and the Christ worshipped god as he walked the earth as man.

peace





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