The Trinity

[musterion]

What do you not understand about the righteousness and obedience of one​?

The "one" is herself. Christ does for her what old, dead, condemned Robert Schuller said about the cross -- it sanctifies the ego trip. Same thing with GT -- Christ died so that she could perfect herself. If she manages to pull it off via works, He'll say "Well done." If she fails, He'll say "Too bad, so sad, get out." That's what she's faced with -- she's said so herself. And she's not alone.

So she's here, like Meshak, LA and dozens of others, preaching that we should observe the works they do...not because they really want to see us saved (they believe it can't be guaranteed for anyone anyway) but because they can't stand the idea of anyone believing forgiveness and justification really are by grace though faith alone, WITHOUT WORK...even though Paul said it was.

Danoh's opinion notwithstanding, none of them are truly deceived, as in genuinely ignorant. They have seen the Truth, repeatedly, and despise it. They have made their choice to be the willing ministers of a "righteousness" which is iniquity, 2 Cor 11:15. Every single one. I have zero pity for them.

 

[God's Truth]

I don't put anyone down for their believing they had the truth. I put them down for preaching a false gospel as if it was the truth.

That is what you do

 

[God's Truth]

Just because he planned to do something doesn't mean that he has to follow through with it if the circumstances change,

Listen to yourself. You put down the Creator of everything. Think about it. You do not think the Creator who made every cell and more in your body could not make the plan perfect. You need to humble yourself so that you can know the truth, just like he says.

 

[God's Truth]

or do you believe that God is locked in to what he plans? That seems like a very incapable God, one that cannot adapt to events. We know that God is capable.

Remember what He said back in Jeremiah?

*The word which came to Jeremiah from the Lord, saying: *“Arise and go down to the potter’s house, and there I will cause you to hear My words.” *Then I went down to the potter’s house, and there he was, making something at the wheel. *And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter; so he made it again into another vessel, as it seemed good to the potter to make.*Then the word of the Lord came to me, saying: *“O house of Israel, can I not do with you as this potter?” says the Lord. “Look, as the clay is in the potter’s hand, so are you in My hand, O house of Israel! *The instant I speak concerning a nation and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, to pull down, and to destroy it, *if that nation against whom I have spoken turns from its evil, I will relent of the disaster that I thought to bring upon it. *And the instant I speak concerning a nation and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it, *if it does evil in My sight so that it does not obey My voice, then I will relent concerning the good with which I said I would benefit it. - Jeremiah 18:1-10http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...0&version=NKJ

There is something you do not grasp as shown by what you just said.

God KNEW that they would be as clay in the Potter's hands.

Think about it some more and be humble.

 

[musterion]

That is what you do

You cry like a little girl.

 

[God's Truth]

The "one" is herself.

Obeying every word of God that He commands to us all is not of myself, it is about every word of God.

Christ does for her what old, dead, condemned Robert Schuller said about the cross -- it sanctifies the ego trip. Same thing with GT –

You read too many books and listen to too many men, too many false teachers. A person such as yourself has been to too many churches with many different pastors, and words not from Him sneaked in unawares.

Christ died so that she could perfect herself.

That is right. Jesus died so that whoever believes in him could be saved.

If she manages to pull it off via works, He'll say "Well done." If she fails, He'll say "Too bad, so sad, get out." That's what she's faced with -- she's said so herself. And she's not alone.

You keep saying that but you are not listening.
Those who do what Jesus says will never say they fail, for I am more than a conqueror.

So she's here, like Meshak, LA and dozens of others, preaching that we should observe the works they do...not because they really want to see us saved (they believe it can't be guaranteed for anyone anyway)

What you say is not true, for it can be guaranteed, if you obey. That means repenting if you do something wrong, it means by obeying by training yourself, and working out your salvation. All the scriptures are from God.

but because they can't stand the idea of anyone believing forgiveness and justification really are by grace though faith alone, WITHOUT WORK...even though Paul said it was.

Paul never ever taught believe and don’t have to obey.

Danoh's opinion notwithstanding, none of them are truly deceived, as in genuinely ignorant. They have seen the Truth, repeatedly, and despise it. They have made their choice to be the willing ministers of a "righteousness" which is iniquity, 2 Cor 11:15. Every single one. I have zero pity for them.

Danoh is a pawn for the devil, and so are all men who look to men for the answers. I preach that you look to Christ and every written word we have from him.

 

[God's Truth]

I look to God's Word for EVERYTHING.

To be saved, to have forgiveness when I did wrong; I look to Jesus to help me when I am struggling with a sin, or with a problem in life. My heart yearns for him and I look to him and what he says for anything and everything in my life. Am I feeling jealous over my enemies great success and many who love them? Jesus tells me what to do. Am I downcast because I am rejected and put down by those all around me? I look to the words of Jesus to exalt me.

If I do not do what he says then how am I being transformed? How then am I being helped by the Helper?

 

[Lazy afternoon]

Zec 3:3 Now Joshua was clothed with filthy garments, and stood before the angel.
Zec 3:4 And he answered and spake unto those that stood before him, saying, Take away the filthy garments from him. And unto him he said, Behold, I have caused thine iniquity to pass from thee, and I will clothe thee with change of raiment.

LA

Rev 3:4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.
Rev 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

It is about OBEYING.

Not about dirty clothes.

 

[Lazy afternoon]

So she's here, like Meshak, LA and dozens of others, preaching that we should observe the works they do...not because they really want to see us saved (they believe it can't be guaranteed for anyone anyway) but because they can't stand the idea of anyone believing forgiveness and justification really are by grace though faith alone, WITHOUT WORK...even though Paul said it was.

Danoh's opinion notwithstanding, none of them are truly deceived, as in genuinely ignorant. They have seen the Truth, repeatedly, and despise it. They have made their choice to be the willing ministers of a "righteousness" which is iniquity, 2 Cor 11:15. Every single one. I have zero pity for them.

Lying about what others believe and have said will not get you into the Kingdom of God.

My defending the words of Jesus against your unbelief does not mean I expect you to do anything except repent.

Jesus said--
Joh 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

You believe Utube rather than the straight forward words of Christ.

LA

 

[God's Truth]

Rev 3:4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.
Rev 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

It is about our spirits being made dirty with disobedience.

It is about being made clean with obedience.

How do you ever get it is about physical washing of literal clothes?

 

[Tambora]

It is about our spirits being made dirty with disobedience.

It is about being made clean with obedience.

How do you ever get it is about physical washing of literal clothes?

The righteousness and obedience of one.

How do you ever get that it is two?????


Romans 5:18-19 KJV
(18) Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
(19) For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.


Of how many?????
ONE, not two.

 

[Tambora]

I look to God's Word for EVERYTHING.

If you did, you would already know that it is not by two, but by one.

Romans 5:18-19 KJV
(18) Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
(19) For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.​

But as we see you do all the time, you try to make it be by two, as in your following rubbish.

To be saved, to have forgiveness when I did wrong; I look to Jesus to help me when I am struggling with a sin, or with a problem in life. My heart yearns for him and I look to him and what he says for anything and everything in my life. Am I feeling jealous over my enemies great success and many who love them? Jesus tells me what to do. Am I downcast because I am rejected and put down by those all around me? I look to the words of Jesus to exalt me.

If I do not do what he says then how am I being transformed? How then am I being helped by the Helper?

Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ never needed any 'help' paying the price in full.
HE paid the price in full, and you paid for none of it.

Titus 3:5 KJV
(5) Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;​

When it comes to one's salvation, if your are relying on your own righteousness and obedience, you are relying on the righteousness and obedience of the wrong one.

 

[God's Truth]

The righteousness and obedience of one.

How do you ever get that it is two?????


Romans 5:18-19 KJV
(18) Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
(19) For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.


Of how many?????
ONE, not two.

Jesus obeyed and tells us to obey.

Why are you doing away with all the scriptures where we are told to obey God?

 

[JudgeRightly]

Jesus obeyed and tells us to obey.

Why are you doing away with all the scriptures where we are told to obey God?

Context, GT, who is Jesus telling to obey? Give the scripture verse, if you please.

 

[God's Truth]

Context, GT, who is Jesus telling to obey? Give the scripture verse, if you please.

I already gave them to you.

Jesus is Lord over everyone and all must obey the Lord.

You need to examine yourself and figure out why you think some have to obey and others do not.

 

[God's Truth]

If you did, you would already know that it is not by two, but by one.

Romans 5:18-19 KJV
(18) Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
(19) For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.​

But as we see you do all the time, you try to make it be by two, as in your following rubbish.

Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ never needed any 'help' paying the price in full.
HE paid the price in full, and you paid for none of it.

Titus 3:5 KJV
(5) Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;​

When it comes to one's salvation, if your are relying on your own righteousness and obedience, you are relying on the righteousness and obedience of the wrong one.

Jesus saves us all on his own.

He tells us whom he chooses to save.

If you want to be saved you will have to do what he says.

 

[JudgeRightly]

I already gave them to you.

Jesus is Lord over everyone and all must obey the Lord.

You need to examine yourself and figure out why you think some have to obey and others do not.

I must have missed them, could you give me the post number? That or I already responded to them.

 

[God's Truth]

I must have missed? them, could you give me the post number? That or I already responded to them.

Go and search.

Now reply to what I said.

I said Jesus is Lord over everyone, and that you need to examine yourelf and figure out why you think some have to obey and others do not. LOL

 

[Tambora]

Jesus obeyed and tells us to obey.

Why are you doing away with all the scriptures where we are told to obey God?

The word of GOD says by the righteousness and obedience of one.

Why are you doing away with all the scriptures where we are told that it is not by our own righteousness???


Acts 13:39 KJV
(39) And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

 

[God's Truth]

The word of GOD says by the righteousness and obedience of one.

Why are you doing away with all the scriptures where we are told that it is not by our own righteousness???


Acts 13:39 KJV
(39) And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Come to Jesus in obedience.

Jesus says more than just believe.

I bow down to Jesus and tell him that I will do all that he says to do, and I say I am sorry for all my sins and will not do them again.