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Another stupid assumption.
2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit.
You just said 'stupid' to God's Word.
Another stupid assumption.
Matthew 3:16 As soon as Jesus was baptized, He went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on Him.17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased!”…
He saw Himself, descend on Himself, and then told Himself He was well pleased with Himself and called Himself His own Son.
Really? We know John was indwelt with the holy Spirit from birth so are you saying that was Jesus who lived in John?
Also, we know Jesus was anointed by the holy Spirit so are you saying Jesus appeared in the form of a dove and anointed himself?
A really, really strange belief.
Anti-Bible.... the Bible says they are ONE, not "the same".Why is it so strange to you? There are three, and the three are the same.
I know, and I know that what you are saying is you condemning yourself.Yes, I made a strong statement GT, and it is what I believe.
If you have a creed, then it is a sure sign that you have wandered from the truth. There is no scripture anywhere that says we are to make creeds.The early Christian church itself was falling into heresies, and Paul mentions this with much gravity.
The Apostle's Creed, in the 2nd century, was issued forth for the sake of Christ's people, so that the church would stand on true biblical interpretation regarding His humanity and divinity.
There is only one correct doctrine of Christ in the Christian Church and that is that Christ was fully God and fully Man; of one substance with the Father.
It matters what we believe and preach to others. You preach things that hinder those who want God’s Truth.I also agree with you, GT, that we must be careful in our judgments of specific individuals here at TOL, or anywhere. I must remember that it is the Lord only, who sees/knows our heart/mind.
Anti-Bible.... the Bible says they are ONE, not "the same".
yes, which the scriptures clearly refute all in one verse.
The Bible says there are One. One means the same.
There are three and the three are the same.
there are no scripture to say we are not to make creeds. Oh and a creed is a statement of belief. all religions have some sort of creed, even if they dont say it as a prayer.I know, and I know that what you are saying is you condemning yourself.
If you have a creed, then it is a sure sign that you have wandered from the truth. There is no scripture anywhere that says we are to make creeds.
You have now ventured off into obeying man and not God.
…and what do you say is that one substance?
It matters what we believe and preach to others. You preach things that hinder those who want God’s Truth.
Salvation is now, and it is when one dies, and it is when Jesus comes again.Salvation is a temporal process; not fully realized until the end of this life or the second coming of Christ; whichever comes first. Hebrews 9:28
Jesus died for His children, while they were still sinners. Romans 5:6
That is AFTER one is saved.Read I Corinthians 2:11-14
This passage plainly and clearly attributes the workings of the Holy Spirit ".. that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God." vs 12b
That is about those who are already saved.Unbelievers become believers by the anointing of the Holy Spirit. I John 2:20-21
All are sinners, and anyone can hear the truth and be taught, persuaded, and convinced.Yes, but a sinner cannot hear the Gospel message until the Holy Spirit gives them ears to hear. They can only be taught, persuaded, and convinced by Him. John 16:8-14
Those scriptures are about the saved and Jesus is telling them to stay in him.Without the abiding and indwelling Spirit of Christ, no one can do anything to work his own salvation. John 15:4-6
No, it does not. That's just another lie that you believe in.The Bible says there are One. One means the same.
No, it does not. That's just another lie that you believe in.
Mark 10:8 and the two will become one flesh.’[So they are no longer two, but one flesh.
so a married couple, isnt really a couple, they cease to be individuals entirely and become one person... yeah
No more a man and a woman, but just one person there.
So why does Jesus watch Himself descend on Himself and call Himself His own Son and tells Himself He is pleased with Himself, break that down for us please.
The beauty of having a creed, is that one does not have to re-invent the wheel so to speak each time a doctrinal question comes up.If you have a creed, then it is a sure sign that you have wandered from the truth. There is no scripture anywhere that says we are to make creeds.
Right that is about married people. It is about the flesh, as in not spirit.Mark 10:8 and the two will become one flesh.’[So they are no longer two, but one flesh.
so a married couple, isnt really a couple, they cease to be individuals entirely and become one person... yeah
No more a man and a woman, but just one person there.
So why does Jesus watch Himself descend on Himself and call Himself His own Son and tells Himself He is pleased with Himself, break that down for us please.
there are no scripture to say we are not to make creeds.
We do not get saved by denominations.Oh and a creed is a statement of belief. all religions have some sort of creed, even if they dont say it as a prayer.
The beauty of having a creed, is that one does not have to re-invent the wheel so to speak each time a doctrinal question comes up.
Substance means one in being with the Father.
From the Belgic Confession, Jesus Christ is True and Eternal God:
begotten from eternity John 1:14, Col 1:15
not made nor created but coessential John 10:30, Phil 2:6
coeternal with the Father John 1:2, John 17:5, Rev 1:8
equal unto Him in all things Phil 2:6
I John 5:7
In addition, Why would God the Father call Jesus God if He is not?Why does Jesus call the Holy Spirit His helper, if its Him?
Why does Jesus pray to the Father, if He IS the Father?
Why does Jesus call Himself His own Son, and tell Himself He is pleased with Himself?
Why does Jesus ask Himself why He has forsaken Himself?
I'll face the Lord's judgment someday, for sure. When I do I will be with my Redeemer, Jesus Christ, who is NO MERE MAN, and who is NOT the Father NOR the Holy Spirit, yet enjoys equal fellowship within the Godhead.Your misjudging others is against God, and so is your creed.