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keypurr said:
Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

Do don't THINK do you?
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The Bible says the there is NONE like God, but keypurr says that there is a "copy". NOPE.

Isa 46:9 (AKJV/PCE)
(46:9) Remember the former things of old: for I [am] God, and [there is] none else; [I am] God, and [there is] none like me,​

But keypurr says that there is ANOTHER "like" Him. Us believers are going to stick with the truth of the Bible.
 
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Hebrews 1:3

(ASV) who being the effulgence of his glory, and the very image of his substance, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had made purification of sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

(BBE) Who, being the outshining of his glory, the true image of his substance, supporting all things by the word of his power, having given himself as an offering making clean from sins, took his seat at the right hand of God in heaven;

(Bishops) Who beyng the bryghtnesse of the glorie, and the very image of his substaunce, vpholdyng all thynges with the worde of his power, hauing by him selfe pourged our sinnes, hath syt on the ryght hande of the maiestie on hye:

(CEV) God's Son has all the brightness of God's own glory and is like him in every way. By his own mighty word, he holds the universe together. After the Son had washed away our sins, he sat down at the right side of the glorious God in heaven.

(DRB) Who being the brightness of his glory and the figure of his substance and upholding all things by the word of his power, making purgation of sins, sitteth on the right hand of the majesty on high:

(ESV) He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,

(Geneva) Who being the brightnes of the glory, and the ingraued forme of his person, and bearing vp all things by his mightie worde, hath by himselfe purged our sinnes, and sitteth at the right hand of the Maiestie in the highest places,

(GNB) He reflects the brightness of God's glory and is the exact likeness of God's own being, sustaining the universe with his powerful word. After achieving forgiveness for the sins of all human beings, he sat down in heaven at the right side of God, the Supreme Power.

(GW) His Son is the reflection of God's glory and the exact likeness of God's being. He holds everything together through his powerful words. After he had cleansed people from their sins, he received the highest position, the one next to the Father in heaven.

(ISV) He is the reflection of God's glory and the exact likeness of his being, and he holds everything together by his powerful word. After he had provided a cleansing from sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Highest Majesty

(KJV) Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

(NAS77) And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high;

(NASB) And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,

(NET.) The Son is the radiance of his glory and the representation of his essence, and he sustains all things by his powerful word, and so when he had accomplished cleansing for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high.

(NIrV) The Son is the gleaming brightness of God's glory. He is the exact likeness of God's being. He uses his powerful word to hold all things together. He provided the way for people to be made pure from sin. Then he sat down at the right hand of the King, the Majesty in heaven.

(NIV) The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.

(NKJV) who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,

(NRSV) He is the reflection of God's glory and the exact imprint of God's very being, and he sustains all things by his powerful word. When he had made purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,

(NRSVA) He is the reflection of God's glory and the exact imprint of God's very being, and he sustains all things by his powerful word. When he had made purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,

(TNIV) The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.

(YLT) who being the brightness of the glory, and the impress of His subsistence, bearing up also the all things by the saying of his might--through himself having made a cleansing of our sins, sat down at the right hand of the greatness in the highest,

I guess all these translations are in error.
 
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keypurr said:
I would wager that I studied the book of John for many years before you were born friend. And I did not fully understand it till about five years ago. That goes for the books of Hebrews, Colossians and Philippians. I prayed for understanding and got it. Man is made in the image of God, BUT THE EXPRESS IMAGE OF GOD is much more. There is ONLY ONE EXPRESS IMAGE SON of GOD, the logos. Do your own study when you think you know enough to put the pieces together.
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Keypurr, whom did John see in John 1:15?
 
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That book of the Bible was written in Greek, so keypurr says "Don't trust the Bible".
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Nope, it was written in Hebrew and Aramaic. The Greek was translated from the Hebrew and Aramaic. Then from the Greek to English that's why I prove all things for the Greek does not contain some words that fit the Aramaic or English.
 
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keypurr said:
I see the logos who was at the creation in the body of Jesus who came after John.
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Keypurr, whom did John see in John 1:15? I just need a single name.

It's a simple and direct question, and I expect nothing more than a simple and direct answer.
 
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Keypurr, whom did John see in John 1:15? I just need a single name.

It's a simple and direct question, and I expect nothing more than a simple and direct answer.
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I don't think in simple JR. You have your answer. You do not seem to understand it. I didn't expect you to.


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keypurr said:
I don't think in simple JR. You have your answer. You do not seem to understand it. I didn't expect you to.


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Keypurr, the Bible is simple enough that a child can understand it.

I asked a question that is simple enough for a child to answer easily, yet you reply with obfuscation. Why?

I'll make it even easier for you.

Is the word "Him" in John 1:15 referring to the "Word" in the previous verse?
A. Yes
B. No
C. I don't know

A, B, or C, Keypurr.
 
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Keypurr, the Bible is simple enough that a child can understand it.

I asked a question that is simple enough for a child to answer easily, yet you reply with obfuscation. Why?

I'll make it even easier for you.

Is the word "Him" in John 1:15 referring to the "Word" in the previous verse?
A. Yes
B. No
C. I don't know

A, B, or C, Keypurr.
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When I was a child I thought like a child, now I am not a child any more. I suggest you stop thinking like a child and use your power to think. Get out of Theology 101 and into the meat.

You seem to forget that I once thought as you do. I can never go back there for my eyes have been opened. Go deeper friend and pray for understanding. I have tried to show you what I have been given. I put it on the table for you, you do not have to digest it. Your choice.


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keypurr said:
When I was a child I thought like a child, now I am not a child any more. I suggest you stop thinking like a child and use your power to think. Get out of Theology 101 and into the meat.
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So if you think I'm thinking like a child, then ANSWER ME as if I were a child. Don't answer me beyond my comprehension. Answer me on my level. I assure you, it won't kill you.

You seem to forget that I once thought as you do. I can never go back there for my eyes have been opened. Go deeper friend and pray for understanding. I have tried to show you what I have been given. I put it on the table for you, you do not have to digest it. Your choice.
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So with all your supposed knowledge and intuition and insight, you have forgotten how to answer a child on his level?

Keypurr, You have become the opposite of meek. You have become arrogant, proud, and above all else, you have rejected what is easily understandable.

If you can't answer this simple question with a simple answer, then what point is there to continue discussion with you?

Keypurr, Is the word "Him" in John 1:15 referring to the "Word" of John 1:14?
 
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