The Trinity

[glorydaz]

No problem;
Would the Son; the temporal physical manifestation of a singular part of the Trinity too simultaneously be the literal fullness of the Trinity?

Absolutely, because God can never be less that what He is.....He is always His complete fulness.

God didn't become less God when He became flesh,

He added humanity to His deity.... and came to dwell among us.

Emmanuel - God with us. Not a part of God with us.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Absolutely, because God can never be less that what He is.....He is always His complete fulness.

God didn't become less God when He became flesh,

He added humanity to His deity.... and came to dwell among us.

Emmanuel - God with us. Not a part of God with us.

Exactly; so if GOD is always the fullness of GOD then what need is there for the other two persons of the Trinity as opposed to simply understanding them as different perspectives of the same eternal invisible GOD, in which case the term person is not accurate when describing the fullness of GOD.

conversely; if Jesus was the literal fulness of GOD then why did he consider himself the son of GOD instead of GOD? GOD with us denotes the potential of the Spirit within each, yet never makes any one GOD.

 

[glorydaz]

Exactly; so if GOD is always the fullness of GOD then what need is there for the other two persons of the Trinity as opposed to simply understanding them as different perspectives of the same eternal invisible GOD?

Because God's word is clear. The Son is not just a different perspective, and the Holy Spirit is not just a different perspective.

Maybe if you actually read the Bible, instead of spending all your time speculating,, you'd see that.


Does this sound like the "us" and the "our" is speaking of a "perspective"? :think:

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.​

 

[popsthebuilder]

Because God's word is clear. The Son is not just a different perspective, and the Holy Spirit is not just a different perspective.

Maybe if you actually read the Bible, instead of spending all your time speculating,, you'd see that.


Does this sound like the "us" and the "our" is speaking of a "perspective"? :think:

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.​

I speak of myself in the plural at times, but it's just a different perspective of me; not three different persons or people within one body, but simply different aspects of the same individual.

You don't have to attempt to insult me to attempt to get your point across; in fact; you might convey it better without such, but whatever.

So let's go over some other verses that use a plurality when GOD is speaking.

Could we; is that too much for me to ask or expect of you?

Perhaps we could go over the verses that describe GOD as a person an contrast to those that describe it as Spirit.

Would you be against that?

Why not go over the verses about the Comforter and how Jesus shows He is the comforter showing singularity in spirit and not plurality?

 

[jamie]

Then prove you can "read English".
Another Helper = Holy Ghost

Yes,do you know the Greek word for Helper?

 

[glorydaz]

Yes,do you know the Greek word for Helper?

:doh:

 

[glorydaz]

Yes,do you know the Greek word for Helper?

I know the meaning, and I don't have to look in the Greek to find it.

Romans 8:26-27 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.


Romans 8:34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.​

 

[jamie]

I know the meaning, and I don't have to look in the Greek to find it.

Is that because you believe the original text was written in English?

Oh well, :carryon:

We're done.

 

[steko]

As you can see, Jesus did not say he would send another Comforter.

On the contrary, it is precisely what He said.

 

[God's Truth]

Why am I not surprised you refuse to listen, and that you reject the written word in favour of your pet theory?

That is what you do.

You simply CAN'T address the verses I gave you, which is why you erased them before you responded.

Chicken.....cluck cluck

You are the one who does not respond to all the scriptures I give.

You calling me a chicken is such a joke it isn't even funny. No untruth is funny to me.

I am not afraid of anything you say. I do not ignore any scripture. You resort to personal attacks, untruths. I resort to the Truth.

 

[God's Truth]

That is the spirit within a man.


The natural man lives to please his flesh. The spiritual man lives to please God.

Both men are just flesh and spirit.

Glory, show what I said that is wrong.

 

[glorydaz]

That is what you do.


You are the one who does not respond to all the scriptures I give.

You calling me a chicken is such a joke it isn't even funny. No untruth is funny to me.

I am not afraid of anything you say. I do not ignore any scripture. You resort to personal attacks, untruths. I resort to the Truth.

Just admit you refuse to address the verses I gave you, and be done with your whining.

 

[God's Truth]

Not selling anything, just wish you would substantiate your false claims about me for once

Let it go. Who cares what you think of me, or what glory thinks of us?

 

[God's Truth]

Just admit you refuse to address the verses I gave you, and be done with your whining.

Give me the scriptures right now, again, according to you, and, right now and here I will answer them, one by one.

 

[God's Truth]

There is no scripture that I will ignore.

Anyone who says that about me has been fooled.

 

[God's Truth]

No problem;
Would the Son; the temporal physical manifestation of a singular part of the Trinity too simultaneously be the literal fullness of the Trinity?

Jesus is the fullness of God. You know that.
Jesus was God when he walked the earth.
You know that.
You are not a trinitarian, and that is good, but stop being confused about your own beliefs.

 

[God's Truth]

No problem;
Would the Son; the temporal physical manifestation of a singular part of the Trinity too simultaneously be the literal fullness of the Trinity?

God the Father came as a Man. Look at us humans. How pathetic we all are. God the Father humbled Himself and came as one of us. Trinitarians are wrong, they say Jesus was distinct/different/separate, and you are wrong when you say Jesus was not fully God. Why are you arguing about that? You sound like one who says Jesus was a man and only a son instead of God the Father the only God come in the flesh.

 

[God's Truth]

Absolutely, because God can never be less that what He is.....He is always His complete fulness.

God didn't become less God when He became flesh,

He added humanity to His deity.... and came to dwell among us.

Emmanuel - God with us. Not a part of God with us.

What?!

Philippians 2:7 rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness.

 

[God's Truth]

On the contrary, it is precisely what He said.

Jesus is the Holy Spirit. That is what scripture says.

Jesus says he will send another comforter. That is about the Spirit coming without the flesh body.

Jesus explains perfectly that it is he, the Holy Spirit that he will send.

 

[glorydaz]

men are just flesh and spirit.

1 Thessalonians 5:23
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

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