The Trinity

The Trinity


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jamie

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I gave you the verse where Jesus said He would send ANOTHER COMFORTER....

"If ye love me, keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever, even the Spirit of truth whom the world cannot receive because it seeth him not neither knoweth him, but ye know him for he dwelleth with you and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless, I will come to you." (John 14:15-18 KJV)

What does "another" mean in Greek?

G243
ἄλλος
allos
al'-los
A primary word; “else”, that is, different (in many applications): - more, one (another), (an-, some an-) other (-s, -wise).

According to Strong's "another" is referring to a different Comforter.

Different in what way?

Is an invisible, immortal Jesus Christ different in any way from a mortal human Jesus whose life was in his blood?


Comforter.

What did John mean by Comforter?

G3875
παράκλητος
paraklētos
par-ak'-lay-tos
An intercessor, consoler: - advocate, comforter.

Is a Comforter an Advocate? Yes, no, maybe?


"I will not leave you comfortless"

What did John mean by comfortless?

G3737
ὀρφανός
orphanos
or-fan-os'
Of uncertain affinity; bereaved (“orphan”), that is, parentless: - comfortless, fatherless.

Does comfortless mean bereaved? Yes, no, maybe?

Why did Jesus not leave them bereaved?

"I will come to you."

Who will come to them?

Is it a different Comforter, one they don't know?

Or did Jesus say "I will come to you"?


Did the human Jesus dwell with them?

Did the invisible, immortal Jesus dwell in them?
 
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popsthebuilder

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even the Spirit of truth whom the world cannot receive because it seeth him not neither knoweth him, but ye know him for he dwelleth with you and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless, I will come to you." (John 14:15-18 KJV)

Same singular Spirit though the flesh is not the Spirit.
 

God's Truth

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No. Actually, I set forth an analogy.
Something of what exists in the originating cause is found by similarity[analogy] in that which is caused.
It would be error to assume that the likeness/similarity/analogy in the effect is identical to what is derived from the originating cause.

What is found in man, in being created in the likeness of GOD, is not identical but only similar to that which is in GOD.

GOD is greater.

The distinction of persons in GOD are real. The experience of self-consciousness in man, which when self-observed through the trinal process, is necessarily lesser than the reality which exists in GOD.

The three are not transient modes of one person.
The three are real persons within the one being which is GOD and have been, are and shall be in eternal communion.

There is no explanation for man's triunal makeup[self-consciousness] unless it be found in his maker...GOD.

Jesus is God. There is only one God and He is the Father. Jesus is that God and Father come in the flesh as a Man.
 

God's Truth

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Jesus is the Son.

If, as you say, there is only one GOD and He is the Father, then Jesus would not be GOD, because He is not the Father. He is the Son.

If it is as I say, you say. I said what the Bible says.

Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all,

1 Corinthians 8:6
yet for us there is but one God, the Father,

Malachi 2:10
"Do we not all have one father? Has not one God created us? Why do we deal treacherously each against his brother so as to profane the covenant of our fathers?


Steko, did not Jesus create us?
 

steko

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If it is as I say, you say. I said what the Bible says.

Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all,

1 Corinthians 8:6
yet for us there is but one God, the Father,

Malachi 2:10
"Do we not all have one father? Has not one God created us? Why do we deal treacherously each against his brother so as to profane the covenant of our fathers?


Steko, did not Jesus create us?

What does the word 'with' mean in Jn 1:1?
 
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