The Trinity

[Bright Raven]

God, the Father is the only true God should we worshipped.
God said also to honor snd worship his son, Christ as Lord of all creation. But not as God himself. In the OT Kings were worshipped.

Jesus Christ is never considered as the most high. The logos is firstborn of all creation/creatures. The logos spoke and obeyed his creator. The logos is the spirit son of the most high who took the form of man to make God known to us. He is the mediator between God and mankind. He is our high priest and he bends his knee to his Father. And he taught us to do the same.


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The Logos is not firstborn. Read and comprehend the that verse. The Logos was in the beginning. You disregard and disgrace the writings of John.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Christ is God, shown here:

http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...nt-proves-Christ-is-God&p=4980428#post4980428

Keypurr believes that Jesus is a human, Christ (aka the Son of God) is a spirit that indwelled Jesus, and that the Son (aka the Logos) is a created being that God commands us to worship as if He were God.

So not only do you have to show that Christ (aka the Son aka the Logos) is God to him, you also have to prove that Jesus is the Son, is God.

 

[musterion]

So not only do you have to show that Christ (aka the Son aka the Logos) is God to him, you also have to prove that Jesus is the Son, is God.

Hebrews proves both.

Christ is ID'd as the one dying to put the testament into force.

God is the one who would make the New testament, just as He'd made the Old.

The one making the testament is the one who has to die.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Hebrews proves both.

Christ is ID'd as the one dying to put the testament into force.

God is the one who would make the New testament, just as He'd made the Old.

The one making the testament is the one who has to die.

I get what you're saying, but Keypurr doesn't believe that Jesus == Christ. He believes they are two separate people.

 

[keypurr]

The Logos is not firstborn. Read and comprehend the that verse. The Logos was in the beginning. You disregard and disgrace the writings of John.

You do not understand Me or John BR. The logos is the spirit son, the first of all creation for it is the express image og God and Go's created all through it.

You have no clue what you read friend. The logos became flesh in the body of Jesus.

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[musterion]

I get what you're saying, but Keypurr doesn't believe that Jesus == Christ. He believes they are two separate people.

Then he's not our problem. He's stuck denying the revealed Word of God that even an honest child can read and understand.

 

[JudgeRightly]

You do not understand Me or John BR. The logos is the spirit son, the first of all creation for it is the express image og God and Go's created all through it.

You have no clue what you read friend. The logos became flesh in the body of Jesus.

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Still waiting for a response, Keypurr.

Keypurr, I asked if God alone is to be worshipped. Is God alone to be worshipped? or are there other beings/entities besides God that we should worship?



I will reply to this once you have answered my above question.

 

[keypurr]

Keypurr, I asked if God alone is to be worshipped. Is God alone to be worshipped? or are there other beings/entities besides God that we should worship?



I will reply to this once you have answered my above question.

There is only one to be worshipped as God.
The son is worshipped as Lord.

As Paul says, we have one God AND one Lord.

He who honors the Son also honors the Father who is greater than all.

The question is who is the son at creation?
It was not Jesus, he is a man created to hold the Son that God SENT to us.

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[keypurr]

Say's you. You are wrong You have never been able to connect John 1:1 with John 1:14. To do so destroys your heretic theology.

Nope, it only proves my thoughts BR.

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[keypurr]

Keypurr believes that Jesus is a human, Christ (aka the Son of God) is a spirit that indwelled Jesus, and that the Son (aka the Logos) is a created being that God commands us to worship as if He were God.

So not only do you have to show that Christ (aka the Son aka the Logos) is God to him, you also have to prove that Jesus is the Son, is God.

I do believe that Jesus the man is the flesh son of God.
But the son SENT is the logos, the spirit son of God.

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[keypurr]

Hebrews proves both.

Christ is ID'd as the one dying to put the testament into force.

God is the one who would make the New testament, just as He'd made the Old.

The one making the testament is the one who has to die.

Hebrews just proves my point.
It's all in Heb chapter one.

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[keypurr]

I get what you're saying, but Keypurr doesn't believe that Jesus == Christ. He believes they are two separate people.

Jesus is a man, the logos is the spirit that spoke through him.

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[keypurr]

Then he's not our problem. He's stuck denying the revealed Word of God that even an honest child can read and understand.

It is not I that has been led around by the half truths of the churches.

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[musterion]

It is not I that has been led around by the half truths of the churches.

I cited no church.

The book of Hebrews says Christ is God. Sorry you can't handle that fact, but it is a fact.

 

[musterion]

Hebrews just proves my point.

No, it proves God's point -- Jesus is the Christ, and Christ is God.

Sorry you don't like that fact, but it is a fact.

 

[keypurr]

No, it proves God's point -- Jesus is the Christ, and Christ is God.

Sorry you don't like that fact, but it is a fact.

Christ means anointed of God, not God.
You have been misled. Do not assume anything.
John 17:3 is very clear.

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[musterion]

Christ means anointed of God, not God.
You have been misled. Do not assume anything.
John 17:3 is very clear.

Hebrews says what it says. Christ is God.

Just admit you don't believe it. You're not fooling anyone.

 

[keypurr]

Hebrews says what it says. Christ is God.

Just admit you don't believe it. You're not fooling anyone.

Christ is "a" God.
My thoughts come from many years of prayerful study and I do believe I was blessed with understanding on this subject.

Think what you want, I can never go back to half truths again.

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[keypurr]

How many true God's are there?
Jesus has a God so he is not God.


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[musterion]

Christ is "a" God.
My thoughts come from many years of prayerful study and I do believe I was blessed with understanding on this subject.

You're not paying attention.

The book of Hebrews says the one who made the will and testament has to die for it to be put in action.

God made the Old with Israel and intended to make the New with Israel.

That means He must die for it to be put into action.

No other being can die for Him to put it into action.

Christ Jesus is the only one who in fact died, for the purpose of putting the New into action.

That means Christ Jesus is God.

The math could not be simpler. You just don't want it to be true.

Think what you want, I can never go back to half truths again.

You're believing self-deluded untruths now.