The Trinity

[JudgeRightly]

I live in New England and I do not know how to get get the program. I would love to hear it though.

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[keypurr]

Sounds like science fiction to me. :chuckle:

Did to me at first also BR, but I can not disprove it and no one else has either.

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[meshak]

It proves that the Trinity is false for Christ is a creation, not God the son.

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I think you should make that clear because I don't think many non-trins get it. so they don't hinder your claim. I certainly don't want to work against non-trins.

 

[keypurr]

Col 1:12-16
12 giving thanks to the Father(God) who has qualified us to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in the light.
13 He(Father) has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyed us into the kingdom of the Son(Jesus) of His love,
14 in whom we have redemption through His(Jesus) blood, the forgiveness of sins.
15 He(Jesus) is the image of the invisible God(Father), the firstborn over all creation.
16 For by Him(Jesus) all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him(Jesus) and for Him(Jesus).
(NKJ)

You need to discard your added words to see what it is ssying.

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[keypurr]

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Thank you friend keep me posted.

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[jamie]

Why do you claim Christ was born before he was born?

You do realize don't you everyone born is born through their mother.

Who was Christ's mother before Mary.

 

[keypurr]

I think you should make that clear because I don't think many non-trins get it. so they don't hinder your claim. I certainly don't want to work against non-trins.

I have been making that clear for over four years now.

Tradition is a hard enemy to defeat.

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[jamie]

He(Jesus) is the image of the invisible God(Father), the firstborn over all creation.

The firstborn over all creation in what context?

 

[drbrumley]

The firstborn over all creation in what context?

firstborn=Jesus.....even though He wasn't born at creation.

 

[Bright Raven]

Did to me at first also BR, but I can not disprove it and no one else has either.

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For me, it has been totally refuted. You just need to accept that.

 

[steko]

For me, it has been totally refuted. You just need to accept that.

Me, too!

Long ago!

 

[Bright Raven]

firstborn=Jesus.....even though He wasn't born at creation.

All it is is positional.

 

[keypurr]

For me, it has been totally refuted. You just need to accept that.

I accept that you do not wish to see truth because your comfortable in tradition. I understand that friend, I have been there.

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[steko]

The firstborn over all creation in what context?

Firstborn as a title of rank, the rightful heir of all creation.

 

[drbrumley]

I accept that you do not wish to see truth because your comfortable in tradition. I understand that friend, I have been there.

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No, you just wanna be different.

 

[keypurr]

firstborn=Jesus.....even though He wasn't born at creation.

Who in your thoughts is the express image of God?
Consider that God is a spirit.

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[keypurr]

No, you just wanna be different.

I gave up a lot to be different.

A price most do not wish to pay.

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[Bright Raven]

Who in your thoughts is the express image of God?
Consider that God is a spirit.

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Jesus

 

[jamie]

Firstborn as a title of rank, the rightful heir of all creation.

Can firstborn refer to a person who is born first?

And Jesus is a rightful heir of all creation with us.

 

[keypurr]

Jesus

You could see Jesus.

Can you see God? God is a spirit not a man.

You could not see the express image until it took the form of man. It was a spirit BR. Read the words in Heb 1 and Col 1:15.

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