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Baloney... anti-Bible.
THE LORD CHOSE ISRAEL
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beloved57
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No its not.
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beloved57
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John Gill says:
And he shall reign over the house of Jacob,.... Not over the Jews, the posterity of Jacob, in a literal sense; but over the whole Israel of God, consisting of Jews and Gentiles. For as his father David reigned over the Idumeans, Syrians, and others, as well as over the house of Judah and Israel, so this his son shall reign over both Jews and Gentiles: his kingdom shall be from one end of the earth to the other, even over all the elect of God; who in successive generations call themselves by the name of Jacob, and surname themselves by the name of Israel, of whatsoever nation they be; and this reign of his shall be
for ever, and of his kingdom there shall be no end; referring to Isaiah 9:7 see also Daniel 2:44 Daniel 7:14 he shall reign in the hearts of his people here unto the end of the world; and with his saints a thousand years in the new heavens and new earth; and with them to all eternity, in the ultimate glory.
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John Gill does not know what he's talking about. He is confused, like you.
beloved57
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Stop quoting confused people and refer to your BIBLE!
beloved57
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Oh they confused people and you are not. You use the bible and they dont.
Elliot's commentary
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Quit posting commentaries by people that share your confusion. It is meaningless.
The Bible has the answers that you despise.
beloved57
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I know everyone else is wrong. They dont consult and believe the bible like you do.
Barnes notes:
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Israel is a man that God named (formerly Jacob) and a nation that bears his name. That is what the Bible says.
Your perverted version of "Israel" is not from God.
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beloved57
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Yeah Yeah.
Trump Gurl
Credo in Unum Deum
Okay, you are dead wrong on that one. While it is true that Israel is a man, Israel is also a nation.
Shema Yisrael (Shema Israel or Sh'ma Yisrael; Hebrew: שְׁמַע יִשְׂרָאֵל; "Hear, O Israel") is a Jewish prayer, and is also the first two words of a section of the Torah, and is the title (better known as The Shema) of a prayer that serves as a centerpiece of the morning and evening Jewish prayer services. The first verse encapsulates the monotheistic essence of Judaism: "Hear, O Israel: the LORD our God, the LORD is one" (Hebrew: שְׁמַע יִשְׂרָאֵל יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵינוּ יְהוָה אֶחָֽד׃), found in Deuteronomy 6:4.[1]
Deuteronomy 6:4
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.
…3Hear, O Israel, and be careful to observe them, so that you may prosper and multiply greatly in a land flowing with milk and honey, just as the LORD, the God of your fathers, has promised you. 4Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is One.5And you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.…
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That's EXACTLY what my post says. Did you read it?
Here's what I said: "Israel is a man that God named (formerly Jacob) and a nation that bears his name."
Link to my post
What does this have to do with anything?
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Your lack of an intelligent reply is all too common.
beloved57
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Yeah Yeah
Nationality is no barrier to God's mercy because He is no respecter of persons. He loves mercy and will shew mercy on all who come to Him seeking His forgiveness for sins.
Psalm 86:5
For thou, Lord, art good, and ready to forgive; and plenteous in mercy unto all them that call upon thee.
Romans 2
26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?
28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
So if God reveals Himself to someone who is not seeking after Him, perhaps because he was not aware of God, or perhaps because he was in rebellion against Him, can the person then choose to seek God?
In other words, if God makes the first move, can a man respond to that move?
Bradley D
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I nearly died of heart failure in my naval barracks room because of alcohol (Dec. 30, 1990). I awoke and my heart was beating very fast. I was drifting back to a drunken sleep when an inner voice told me. "If you fall back to sleep you will not wake up." I took that to mean I would die in my sleep. I got up and was wondering what to do. I was scared to leave my barracks room. The voice came again and told me. "Get to a hospital now." I went to the barracks office and requested a ride to the hospital. At ER the doctor admitted me and had me take medicine to slow down my heart. I never drank again. To me that voice came from God. So I believe God reaches out to those who do not always reach out to Him first. I did not deserve to be saved, but am very grateful and blessed.