Apple7
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Still in that 'hard loop' of yours, pops...?
The Incarnation of the WORD
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Still in that 'hard loop' of yours, pops...?
Zeke
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But that God/Father is also in us like it was said to be Jesus, as a baby we can do nothing of our own volition until we grow and become stronger in body and mind, Your Parents were you're God fulfilling the role of the Spirit until you could feed and cloth yourself, then they became a Father and Mother after you became aware of yourself.
You have us being eternal babies.
Who impregnated Mary?
Would it be Jesus' father?
Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After His mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit. (Matthew 1:18 NKJV)
But while he thought about these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, "Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife, for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit." (Matthew 1:20 NKJV)
And the angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you and the power of the Highest will overshadow you, therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God. (Luke 1:35 NKJV)
But while he thought about these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, "Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife, for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit." (Matthew 1:20 NKJV)
And the angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you and the power of the Highest will overshadow you, therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God. (Luke 1:35 NKJV)
The Holy Spirit is not a person, it is the power of the Most High that can be poured out on a person.
Peter speaks of the Holy Spirit not only as a person but as God.
Acts 5:3-4 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
3 But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back some of the price of the land?
4 While it remained unsold, did it not remain your own? And after it was sold, was it not under your control? Why is it that you have conceived this deed in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God.”
Jesus said the Father seeks those who will worship him in Spirit and Truth.
Jesus explained that he is the Truth.
In John 14:6 Jesus describes himself as... "I am the way, the truth and the life: no man can come to the Father but by me".
Isn't that pretty much the way that it is?
keypurr
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That verse is not in the earliest of m/s. It was added in the 16th century.
If you want truth get out of the KJV.
That is what all of you "Jesus is not God" people say.
I consider the KJV to be the most accurate version of the Bible that there is.
Who is the "US" in Genesis 1:26.
Who was that, that turned water into wine, healed the sick, fed 5000, walked on water, raised the dead and ascended into heaven?
Prizebeatz1
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"In the beginning....." What beginning does this refer to? Can there be a beginning to what is eternal? Can this really mean the beginning of creation? Here comes the father of lies with the implication that God and creation are separate. Herein lies the downfall of many. What is behind this unconscious desire to separate from God?
It refers to the beginning of human history.
According to the Bible and science the physical realm is not eternal.
On the contrary, creation affirms the existence of God.
Romans 1:19, 20.
Prizebeatz1
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Is the bible a book about human history or about something else? Looks like you got off on the wrong foot buddy.
Prizebeatz1
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Oh really? What about the law that says matter can neither be created or destroyed? It's clear that we like to separate ourself from what is eternal and infinite. What do you get in exchange and is it worth the price of your own soul?
Prizebeatz1
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Are God and creation separate?
Apple7
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Let's look...
א בְּרֵאשִׁית, בָּרָא אֱלֹהִים, אֵת הַשָּׁמַיִם, וְאֵת הָאָרֶץ.
1.1 Bereishit bara Elohim et hashamayim ve'et ha'aretz.
In the beginning created God the heavens and the earth;
The compound Hebrew noun “hashamayim ve'et ha'aretz”, “heavens” (plural) and “earth” (singular) with the definite articles and the conjunction, carries with it a distinct meaning.
Just as the English words “under” and “statement” and “dragon” and “fly” put together as compound nouns take on specific meanings.
“Hashamayim ve'et ha'aretz” consistently refers to the totality of the physical universe: matter, energy, space, and time.
References:
Creation & Time
Waltke
pp. 20, 25-26
The Bible is the story of humanity's journey from mortals to immortals. It's quite a story.