This is a debate, and you are not the headmaster of this thread, you idiot.
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The earth is flat and we never went to the moon
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This is a debate, and you are not the headmaster of this thread, you idiot.
--Dave
If this is a debate, then why do you insist on insulting people trying to discuss with you?
Insults aren't very scientific.
musterion
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Fine. So tell the truth.
Which position do you lean toward? Globe or Flat?
Asking because you've said before you're just playing Devil's advocate for the Flat side, but you seem more invested in it than that.
NASA is the conspiracy agency about space, astronomy and moon landings. There are many contradictions and CGI videos that have undermined their credibility through the years.
Videos with fish eye lenses that show a curved earth are contradicted by many video that show a flat earth with straight, not curved horizon from high altitude.
--Dave
I insult only you because I've had enough of your stupid comments.
You constantly miss the main point of this thread, and don't ask me what it is because I've explained it enough times for you to see it.
--Dave
I'm invested in a literal view of the Bible, cosmology is incorporated into Genesis along with the creation of man/biology.
The ancient view is flat earth and it was that for a long time until the Greek philosophers changed everything including a view of the nature of God which I have always opposed with open view.
A stationary earth centered globe replaced flat earth for a very long time before Copernicus resurrected the sun centered universe of the Pythagorean school that lost out to Aristotle's earth centered model.
The obvious, to me and many others, faked moon landings, and the powerful Nikon P900 zoom camera are challenging the curved earth and the nature of the sun, moon, and stars. We are seeing things that contradict what we have been told by so called experts and NASA.
I want to see this subject from all sides, compare the evidence and see how it turns out. I want to find out who is and is not telling the truth. My life long globe view is being challenged so I want to see if it can handle it. If my life long view is wrong, then I will change it. It's obvious that I open to changing to flat earth in the same way I was open to changing to the open view of God years ago.
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musterion
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That's saying you're not quite convinced, but man you sure come across as if you already are. And to tell the truth -- you don't respond squarely to a lot of the objections you get here. That also makes people think your mind is already made up. In which case it seems you're just screwing around with them and that ticks them off.
If your mind is honestly made up, as it appears, probably no one here will begrudge you that. You're a grown man, it's your call. But just say so.
Two cents, probably not even worth that.
The "no response" response has often been, I don't know how to answer that question so let me look into it and see what a flat earth answer is.
I don't know all the answers on this subject so I take the time to study it more.
I have also posted video that is a direct response to many questions only to have some say they don't want to view a video. But much of the evidence is visual, and I try to pick out short ones, so I consider this a cope out. I like watching video presentations from both sides.
Many have their minds all made up on this issue and flat earth is not winning many converts. But flat earth is a historic cosmology that is much revived today so that in itself has my interest and I am very much opposed to the evolution of the cosmos and relativity.
Thanks for post.
--Dave
musterion
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Well, like I've said before...eclipses, moon phases and orbits just won't work apart from the heliocentric global model. Feel free to disagree with that.
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It's so simple that a child can understand it, but Dave cannot.
WizardofOz
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You're avoiding the problem. Let's say they sail past Antarctica. Or :idea: let's say it's an airplane and they fly south from Mexico, right over Antarctica, in the hopes of reaching India. Where do they end up?
I think you're letting your emotions get the better of you. Keep your insults without good reason to yourself. This is not a forum for insulting people, it is a forum for discussion.
I understand that being offensive is allowed on this forum, even name calling. But it's usually accompanied by a good reason, stated or unstated. You not liking what I post is not a good enough reason to call me an idiot. Find a better reason, or stop calling me an idiot.
We can have this discussion on the topic of the flat earth, Dave, and we can do it politely. Or we can do it the rude way, where nothing important ever gets said or noticed because the thread is filled with insults, and that usually leads nowhere good. So take your pick here and now, Dave.
That is a very poor video, and not a very convincing one either, for the reason that he doesn't trace a line from the sun to the moon with the camera, first he pans left then pans up...
[MENTION=595]Knight[/MENTION], do you think you could stitch together a panorama using the frames from that video? So we can get an idea of where the moon is in the sky in relation to the sun in that video? Perhaps put it in a 360 degree photo? Then draw the shortest line possible from the moon to the sun and see how it lines up?
WizardofOz
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Bump for Dave...
On flat earth you end up somewhere beyond the ice wall that surrounds it.
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