The dim future of Britain

musterion

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What exactly is this quote, because as much as Britain is a multicultural society there's no tolerance for extremism apart from those who are extremist. I want fanatical nutcases given the boot, I'm just not going to tar all those of different cultures with the same brush because of the actions of rabid zealots.

You cannot positively identify all of the jihadists in hiding among you until it's too late. What do you propose to do about that?
 

musterion

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The murderer managed to put on such a front with those close to him that local parents would even trust him to be alone with their children, which used to happen regularly. . .

The Barking jihadi was described as 'a nice guy' by a neighbour who saw him hold a door open for an old lady two days before slaughtering innocent members of the public in the third Islamic terror attack in just over 10 weeks in the UK.


He was "one of the nice ones" until he wasn't.

There are many others just like him.

Would you please tell us what general area you live in? In case there ever is an attack there, done by locals, we want to remind you not to panic because of how peaceful you assured us your local Muslims are.
 

rocketman

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What exactly is this quote, because as much as Britain is a multicultural society there's no tolerance for extremism apart from those who are extremist. I want fanatical nutcases given the boot, I'm just not going to tar all those of different cultures with the same brush because of the actions of rabid zealots.

Rabid zealots? I would consider the Jihadi's the rabid zealots, and unfortunately the not so zealous amongst their own culture are tolerant of their presence, the peace loving citizens of any country should never have to endure the barbarism of a violent sect, nor are they zealots, bigots, or xenophobes for wanting an opposing culture or subculture ejected from society for being barbarous. Plainly speaking, muslims that want to live in peace & safety in the western world need to "out" those amongst their own that espouse, recruit, and incite extremist views. Either people amongst the muslim faith are willing to aid in the fight against the barbarism or be counted amongst it, aiding & abetting it.
 

musterion

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Here's an alternative I'm borrowing from the comments somewhere else.

You want to stop this refugee terror BS?

If one of these Muslim b******s gets caught doing some terrorist activity, deport 20 family members with him. Complete forfeiture of all possessions, and anything that cannot fit on their backs for their ride back to their place of origin.

Example: people like that Manchester bomber’s sister who congratulated him on entering paradise. She needs to go. That statement is a statement of support for murder. Her and all her Family get a free boat ride out of the country.

If they know that the only thing that will keep the whole lot of them from being them shipped out of the country penniless, is them turning their goat molester cousin in to the authorities, they might just do it.

How about this idea, AB?
 

Arthur Brain

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You cannot positively identify all of the jihadists in hiding among you until it's too late. What do you propose to do about that?

Live in a cardboard box in the cellar, quaking in fear lest the local Muslims take over and force us all to live on prayer mats.

Else I'll do what I do normally. Go into town, get shopping, pass by the local mosque as well as several churches, come back home, get something to eat and live like most people around here do.
 

musterion

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Live in a cardboard box in the cellar, quaking in fear lest the local Muslims take over and force us all to live on prayer mats.

Else I'll do what I do normally. Go into town, get shopping, pass by the local mosque as well as several churches, come back home, get something to eat and live like most people around here do.

And possibly die at the hand of your previously friendly neighborhood Mohammedan. Well...it's your call.
 

Arthur Brain

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Rabid zealots? I would consider the Jihadi's the rabid zealots, and unfortunately the not so zealous amongst their own culture are tolerant of their presence, the peace loving citizens of any country should never have to endure the barbarism of a violent sect, nor are they zealots, bigots, or xenophobes for wanting an opposing culture or subculture ejected from society for being barbarous. Plainly speaking, muslims that want to live in peace & safety in the western world need to "out" those amongst their own that espouse, recruit, and incite extremist views. Either people amongst the muslim faith are willing to aid in the fight against the barbarism or be counted amongst it, aiding & abetting it.

You are aware that the biggest opponents to the rabid extremists in Islam are Muslims themselves? TH has pointed this out time and again and it either falls on deaf ears or people with so much tin foil on their heads they just can't hear anyway. In case you weren't aware, there were plenty of Muslims who helped out after the appalling attack in Manchester, aiding people to get to hospitals, free taxi rides and condemnation of the travesty etc. Do you want to address that?
 

Arthur Brain

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And possibly die at the hand of your previously friendly neighborhood Mohammedan. Well...it's your call.

Yeah, it is Musty. One I've made for years and I'd sooner live life outside of some demented paranoia that you encourage frankly. Do you actually set foot outside of your own house?
 

rocketman

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You are aware that the biggest opponents to the rabid extremists in Islam are Muslims themselves?

Really....For being the biggest opponents they are also the quietest, I have yet to see on protest or public demonstration to that effect. Sorry AB, I don't buy that mess of bovine scat for a second.


TH has pointed this out time and again and it either falls on deaf ears or people with so much tin foil on their heads they just can't hear anyway. In case you weren't aware, there were plenty of Muslims who helped out after the appalling attack in Manchester, aiding people to get to hospitals, free taxi rides and condemnation of the travesty etc. Do you want to address that?

No, I don't want to address what TH has said... I have personally never seen any public outrage from the muslim community, nor have I seen a concerted effort for muslims to separate themselves from the ideology that has hijacked their religion. When that comes to pass than yes, we can discuss it but, for now that is not happening in any meaningful way to even get a 5 second blurb on the evening news, why? because it is virtually nonexistent ....you know it, so do I, along with the rest of the world.
 

glorydaz

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I've yet to see anyone on here call the removal of or the targeting of terrorists bigotry. It's rather more the lumping of all Muslims into the minority extremist bent that gets that response. In my local town I live 200 yards away from a mosque and many Muslims live here. According to the likes of Musty we'll be under sharia law in under a decade...

Yep, you will be under sharia law unless something is done quickly. This is what appeasement gets you. This is what political correctness gets you. This is what liberal ignorance gets you. It's trying to get us, too. The fools are working hard to turn us into your country. Hopefully, what happens in Europe will scare our libs so much they may finally see the light.
 

chair

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Yep, you will be under sharia law unless something is done quickly. This is what appeasement gets you. This is what political correctness gets you. This is what liberal ignorance gets you. It's trying to get us, too. The fools are working hard to turn us into your country. Hopefully, what happens in Europe will scare our libs so much they may finally see the light.

What exactly is the "something" that should be done? How will you go about doing this "something"?
 

annabenedetti

like marbles on glass
You are aware that the biggest opponents to the rabid extremists in Islam are Muslims themselves? TH has pointed this out time and again and it either falls on deaf ears or people with so much tin foil on their heads they just can't hear anyway. In case you weren't aware, there were plenty of Muslims who helped out after the appalling attack in Manchester, aiding people to get to hospitals, free taxi rides and condemnation of the travesty etc. Do you want to address that?

It won't fit with their narrative that the only good Muslim is a dead Muslim.

Here's the British Muslim community speaking out, loud and clear:

‘Terrorism Has No Religion:’ Muslims Across The UK Slam London Attackers
“It shouldn’t even have to be said, but this is not Islam,” one Islamic charity group wrote.


In a rallying cry against religious extremism, Muslims across the United Kingdom are denouncing Saturday night’s deadly attacks in London, calling the violence cowardly acts by people who hide behind a religion that is not theirs.

“Terrorism has no religion,” Imam Abdul Quddus Arif, of the local Ahmadiyya Muslim community, told HuffPost UK on Sunday, slamming the assailants’ twisted beliefs. “Basically, not in my name, not in the name of Islam. I want to make that very clear.”

His stern words of condemnation follow witnesses describing one of the night’s assailants as calling out the name of Allah amid the attacks. The militant group the Islamic State later claimed responsibility for the attack, which follows another attack credited to the group last month at a Manchester arena.


“Islam is not a religion as portrayed by these so-called Muslims. Islam is a religion that says if you kill an innocent soul it’s akin to killing the whole of humanity, and if you save an innocent soul it’s akin to saving the whole of humanity,” he said, amid prayers for the victims and first responders. “A true Muslim, he only has two purposes. One is fulfilling the rights of God, and second is to fulfill the rights of his fellow beings.”

Arif’s message was echoed by other Muslim organizations across the country, condemning Islamic extremism.

“It shouldn’t even have to be said, but this is not Islam. Their warped view of the world doesn’t belong here in our country. Frankly, it doesn’t belong anywhere in the world. It should die with them,” New Horizons in British Islam charity said in a statement.

The Muslim Association of Britain also expressed heartbreak with determination to stand up to acts of terror.

“As members of British Society, we must continue to condemn all acts of terror, and we must not allow these criminals to spread hatred and fear; and we must foil their attempts to divide us,” they stated.

Harun Khan, Secretary General of the Muslim Council of Britain, also expressed his revulsion at the attacks.

“Muslims everywhere are outraged and disgusted at these cowards who once again have destroyed the lives of our fellow Britons,” he said. “That this should happen in this month of Ramadan, when many Muslims were praying and fasting only goes to show that these people respect neither life nor faith.”


 

Arthur Brain

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Yep, you will be under sharia law unless something is done quickly. This is what appeasement gets you. This is what political correctness gets you. This is what liberal ignorance gets you. It's trying to get us, too. The fools are working hard to turn us into your country. Hopefully, what happens in Europe will scare our libs so much they may finally see the light.

Well, thanks for that load of far right alarmist rhetoric. If you think Britain will ever be under sharia law as a nation then you are a snowflake and then some.

:AMR:
 

Arthur Brain

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It won't fit with their narrative that the only good Muslim is a dead Muslim.

Here's the British Muslim community speaking out, loud and clear:

‘Terrorism Has No Religion:’ Muslims Across The UK Slam London Attackers
“It shouldn’t even have to be said, but this is not Islam,” one Islamic charity group wrote.


In a rallying cry against religious extremism, Muslims across the United Kingdom are denouncing Saturday night’s deadly attacks in London, calling the violence cowardly acts by people who hide behind a religion that is not theirs.

“Terrorism has no religion,” Imam Abdul Quddus Arif, of the local Ahmadiyya Muslim community, told HuffPost UK on Sunday, slamming the assailants’ twisted beliefs. “Basically, not in my name, not in the name of Islam. I want to make that very clear.”

His stern words of condemnation follow witnesses describing one of the night’s assailants as calling out the name of Allah amid the attacks. The militant group the Islamic State later claimed responsibility for the attack, which follows another attack credited to the group last month at a Manchester arena.


“Islam is not a religion as portrayed by these so-called Muslims. Islam is a religion that says if you kill an innocent soul it’s akin to killing the whole of humanity, and if you save an innocent soul it’s akin to saving the whole of humanity,” he said, amid prayers for the victims and first responders. “A true Muslim, he only has two purposes. One is fulfilling the rights of God, and second is to fulfill the rights of his fellow beings.”

Arif’s message was echoed by other Muslim organizations across the country, condemning Islamic extremism.

“It shouldn’t even have to be said, but this is not Islam. Their warped view of the world doesn’t belong here in our country. Frankly, it doesn’t belong anywhere in the world. It should die with them,” New Horizons in British Islam charity said in a statement.

The Muslim Association of Britain also expressed heartbreak with determination to stand up to acts of terror.

“As members of British Society, we must continue to condemn all acts of terror, and we must not allow these criminals to spread hatred and fear; and we must foil their attempts to divide us,” they stated.

Harun Khan, Secretary General of the Muslim Council of Britain, also expressed his revulsion at the attacks.

“Muslims everywhere are outraged and disgusted at these cowards who once again have destroyed the lives of our fellow Britons,” he said. “That this should happen in this month of Ramadan, when many Muslims were praying and fasting only goes to show that these people respect neither life nor faith.”



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